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Old 12-14-2011, 05:23 PM   #21
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Old 12-14-2011, 05:27 PM   #22
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I do realize this and thats why there are millions of videos of this exact thing, just cause the world does it doesnt mean it needs to be the way here and that its safe. Germany has the autobahn, should that mean we should drive 120mph + here in the states legally?
Why not? Our interstates were designed to enable over the road trucks in the 50's to move goods at high speeds.

I'm absolutely positive even the most technologically retarded car built in the past 20 years is light years ahead of the trucks for which the roads were designed.

There is nothing inherently unsafe about 120+ speeds. NOTHING. The problem in the US is our drivers...they seem to think they can get behind the controls of a 2-ton land-bound missile and switch off the brain.
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Old 12-14-2011, 05:28 PM   #23
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Why not? Our interstates were designed to enable over the road trucks in the 50's to move goods at high speeds.

I'm absolutely positive even the most technologically retarded car built in the past 20 years is light years ahead of the trucks for which the roads were designed.

There is nothing inherently unsafe about 120+ speeds. NOTHING. The problem in the US is our drivers...they seem to think they can get behind the controls of a 2-ton land-bound missile and switch off the brain.
Nothing Unsafe at 120+mph? Braking Distance, Tire traction, momentum when changing Lanes, Being able to see ahead enough to warn you, animals on road, debris on road etc etc. All these are reason why traveling 120+mph is unsafe. That was just 3 seconds of thinking about it
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In Germany we drive over 120, it's been that way for forever. Of course we have laws that state change in speed for different areas and of course you can't do that residentially. But in areas it's deemed safe, speeding is awesome!!

It's nice to get somewhere in a hurry and getting a job far away makes life bare able!
2 hour drive at 120 is only an hour.

Lane splitting should be legal, but if not drive at your own risk!
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And want to add that the van in the video could have been responding to a situation on the other side of it and reacted safely to avoid an accident and got in another due to a rider lane splitting and driving where he shouldn't have.
If you paid attention to the video, the van was moving over due to vehicles parked on the left side of the curb...the rider failed to see it and adjust accordingly.

Further LEGAL lane splitting does not involve high speeds...
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I grew up in California where lane splitting is legal. I do my best not to do it here. If the traffic is stopped I sometimes lane split ( I know it people off ) and clear myself of traffic. It is dangerous, and you could easily end up in a bind while traveling at highway speeds. That is why I do my best not to. It isin't a race, and I like my bike the way it is.
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Please read the Law. It's for low speeds... Write em now. Since Tx only meets every two years the bill may have to be reintroduced..

Anyways... Same ol argument!!!

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IMO..All of them were easily avoidable ..except the door opening...
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I'd love to see something like an autobahn. Imagine a "no speed limits" road running alongside another "speed-limited" route, like I-10 (outside the big city). It'd be mostly bikes (whatcha bet?) - and probably part of every Sunday ride. Me likey. Drive/ride at your own risk; if you want slow and safe just stay on the original highway with everyone else.
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I'd love to see something like an autobahn. Imagine a "no speed limits" road running alongside another "speed-limited" route, like I-10 (outside the big city). It'd be mostly bikes (whatcha bet?) - and probably part of every Sunday ride. Me likey. Drive/ride at your own risk; if you want slow and safe just stay on the original highway with everyone else.
I'd love to see Autobahn style roads when we have German style licensing fees and tests.
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fun stuff when folks block the left lane in houston. all other lanes going 70, some douche bag is going 70 or less in the left lane with no one in front of him.
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Nothing Unsafe at 120+mph? Braking Distance, Tire traction, momentum when changing Lanes, Being able to see ahead enough to warn you, animals on road, debris on road etc etc. All these are reason why traveling 120+mph is unsafe. That was just 3 seconds of thinking about it
Braking distance for a modern car moving at 120mph is ~300 feet.

Braking distance for a fully loaded modern truck moving at 60mph is about the same. That's a MODERN truck mind you - not a 1950s design with drum brakes...

Tire technology has improved exponentially.

Momentum? Modern cars are far lighter.

Sight distances? Once again, the roads were designed to be safe for 1950s level truck technology and took the required distances into account.

The speed itself is perfectly safe. This was actually tested a total of 5 different times by the NHTSA and at least twice by AAA back when 55mph was the national speed limit. The NHTSA kept trying to come up with a study where the results indicated higher speeds were inherently unsafe. Every SINGLE study came to the same conclusion - the problem is not higher speeds, but speed differential. In other words, if Americans would actually learn how to drive, rather than operate a motor vehicle, and exercised something resembling lane discipline, there is no reason why you could not safely drive at triple digits on the interstates.

Incidentally, Montana has no day time speed limit on the interstates, and many western areas have limits of 80 or above. Even Texas permits 80mph in the more desolate sections, and as anyone who has ever had the misfortune to be on I-10 out west knows, DPS pretty much ignores you if you keep in your lane and keep it in a straight line...even when you're doing 120.

Just because YOU are afraid of the speed, do not assume the rest of us are. I'm far more comfortable at 80-100 in my cage than I am at 60. Sixty puts me to sleep. If my bike could actually DO 120, I'd be happy with that too.
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fun stuff when folks block the left lane in houston. all other lanes going 70, some douche bag is going 70 or less in the left lane with no one in front of him.
That really grinds my gears.
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Interesting to see a motorcycle rider say lane splitting is "dangerous," while posting videos of crashes that occurred while lane splitting, as if "proof" that it should not be allowed.

I can produce FAR more videos of people slaughtering themselves just plain riding motorcycles if that is supposed to prove a point.

Guess it is time to outlaw motorcycles.
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... Every SINGLE study came to the same conclusion - the problem is not higher speeds, but speed differential. In other words, if Americans would actually learn how to drive, rather than operate a motor vehicle, and exercised something resembling lane discipline, there is no reason why you could not safely drive at triple digits on the interstates.

Incidentally, Montana has no day time speed limit on the interstates, and many western areas have limits of 80 or above. Even Texas permits 80mph in the more desolate sections, and as anyone who has ever had the misfortune to be on I-10 out west knows, DPS pretty much ignores you if you keep in your lane and keep it in a straight line...even when you're doing 120.
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wrd. if a brick wall is moving in the same direction and speed as you, there is absolutely no way you'l run into it and die. it is a completely different story when you have a douche bag going 10-20 mph slower than the rest of traffic cutting across all lanes of traffic to take an exit. imo, houston driving isn't set up for really high speeds in some parts, because we have a bunch of left exits off highways. i.e. i10 heading east before down town, both the 45north and 45 south exits are on the left of i10. you're bound to have someone slow in the left lane just because of the exits.
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Interesting to see a motorcycle rider say lane splitting is "dangerous," while posting videos of crashes that occurred while lane splitting, as if "proof" that it should not be allowed.

I can produce FAR more videos of people slaughtering themselves just plain riding motorcycles if that is supposed to prove a point.

Guess it is time to outlaw motorcycles.
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That guys is dumb, and lane splitting is retarded. That's like when there's someone trying to make a right at a stop light, and there's one car ahead of them, so they try to squeeze in instead of waiting a minute or two... You're not any more important that anyone else, so shut the up and wait.
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That guys is dumb, and lane splitting is retarded. That's like when there's someone trying to make a right at a stop light, and there's one car ahead of them, so they try to squeeze in instead of waiting a minute or two... You're not any more important that anyone else, so shut the up and wait.
thats call filtering and is also legal in CA and done throughtout the world

if first car is going straight, whats the harm of bike moving forward and turning or even going straight as long as you get by and ahead of 1st car quickly.

and back to even if it becomes law, doesn't mean you don't have to do it.
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