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Old 12-07-2011, 05:38 PM   #21
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Haven't had a problem with mine so far. I do hear you need their special charger (80 somethin bucks) to make sure that all cells charge evenly and fully. Apparently only a once or twice a month thing. I got the 8 cell for my bike and built a new aluminum box, dropped 14 pounds off the backbone of the bike.
Riders discount has advised me to put it on a trickle for 15 minutes Only.
He said If you have a battery tender use only for 15 minutes and should be good. The first 15 is higher then falls off on those.
Does this guy know what he is talking about or am I gonna trash the batt following this advice
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Old 12-07-2011, 05:46 PM   #22
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Riders discount has advised me to put it on a trickle for 15 minutes Only.
He said If you have a battery tender use only for 15 minutes and should be good. The first 15 is higher then falls off on those.
Does this guy know what he is talking about or am I gonna trash the batt following this advice
That's funny because they told me to NOT put it on a battery tender
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Old 12-07-2011, 05:57 PM   #23
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That's funny because they told me to NOT put it on a battery tender
You mean mike?
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my 12 cell starts my 1441cc fine
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Old 12-07-2011, 09:09 PM   #25
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my 12 cell starts my 1441cc fine
Yeah evidently the 12cell is a different or better design with better results reported also on the psychobike link in op.
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I have the 4 cell and got a dead cell and luckily got a replacement. Customer service is though. They basically tell you to shove it and buy a new battery.
this... happens all the time. they're not using the top of the line A123 cells or whatever they're called like speedcell uses. and when one of em craps out, the whole battery is useless. TERRIBLE warranty coverage and customer service. stick with speedcell if you're going to go with a racing battery. i'm actually sticking with the good old AGM battery for $35.
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Anyone own the proper charger for this pos?
I will bring some beer for while its charging
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Anyone else have any experience with Ballistic EVO2 Batteries?

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No, you do not need a special charger. Any automotive or motorcycle based charger is acceptable to recharge your Ballistic Performance Components Battery as long as it has an automatic shut-off at 14.4V to prevent over charging. If you are using an automatic charge, be sure that it is not used in automatic desulfication mode designed for lead-acid batteries, this can damage the cells.

Ballistic Performance Components batteries are very different from a traditional lead acid batteries in that they do not require regular maintenance charging. A traditional lead-acid battery can lose as much as 1% of their capacity per day of static use. Ballistic Performance Components batteries will lose only 10% of their total charge over a twelve (12) month period of static use so a trickle charger is not required. Ballistic Performance Components batteries are compatible with your vehicle’s charging system and can be used in a “total loss” racing application. Please refer to the detailed charging instructions included with your battery or the charging instructions located at: http://www.ballisticparts.com/tech/charging.html.

When charging a Ballistic Performance Components Battery with a traditional automotive or motorcycle based external charging device, the following input specifications are recommended:

Standard Charge: 2A @ 13.2-14.4V for approximately 45 minutes or until the battery registers 14.4V.
Maximum Charge Rate for Standard Automotive-based Charger:
EVO2 50 Battery (100-009) – 5A @ 13.2-14.4V for 15 minutes or until the battery registers 14.4V.
4 Cell EVO2 (100-010) – 10A @ 13.2-14.4V for 15 minutes or until the battery registers 14.4V.
8 Cell EVO2 (100-011) – 20A @ 13.2-14.4V for 15 minutes or until the battery registers 14.4V.
12 Cell EVO2 (100-012) – 20A @ 13.2-14.4V for 15 minutes or until the battery registers 14.4V.
16 Cell EVO2 (100-013) – 20A @ 13.2-14.4V for 15 minutes or until the battery registers 14.4V.
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You mean Neverstart? I've never had one last any significant period of time, they are right up there with Duracrap imo. But each to their own.

I was going to buy a ballistic 8-cell, now I'm paranoid. My stock battery is still going strong! That might change once it comes out of the shop, hasn't been run in a week...
I've used everstart batteries on my battery-eating aprilia for years. Yes they go, but they go at the same rate as the more expensive ones.
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I've used everstart batteries on my battery-eating aprilia for years. Yes they go, but they go at the same rate as the more expensive ones.
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exactly. like saving 7 pounds is going to make any of y'all faster anyways. (well, SOME maybe, but most of us wouldn't notice if we lost 10 pounds off the bike)
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exactly. like saving 7 pounds is going to make any of y'all faster anyways. (well, SOME maybe, but most of us wouldn't notice if we lost 10 pounds off the bike)
If they outlast their 3 year warranty and have more cranking power then that's a good enough reason for me
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i've never heard of anything other than a speedcell outlasting it's warranty. but i sure as heck can get 3 years out of my walmart agm $35 battery.
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I was planning on a lighter battery when my original one dies, but it doesn't seem like that's ever going to happen.
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i've never heard of anything other than a speedcell outlasting it's warranty. but i sure as heck can get 3 years out of my walmart agm $35 battery.
Do you ever put your battery on a charger?
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i've never heard of anything other than a speedcell outlasting it's warranty. but i sure as heck can get 3 years out of my walmart agm $35 battery.
That's because speed cell are the only people that spend the money on the nice matched cells that are not the RC type battery cells. Everyone else uses those cheap cells that require a balanced charger to charge them properly. Problem is they won't tell you that, so the battery packs don't last.
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That's because speed cell are the only people that spend the money on the nice matched cells that are not the RC type battery cells. Everyone else uses those cheap cells that require a balanced charger to charge them properly. Problem is they won't tell you that, so the battery packs don't last.
exactly... , you can MAKE one of the "cheaper brands" quite easily. well, not easily, but it aint TOO complicated. same quality as the other stuff - mismatched voltaged cells. the quality tolerance just isn't there for the cheaper guys. and it shows in life expectancy.
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exactly... , you can MAKE one of the "cheaper brands" quite easily. well, not easily, but it aint TOO complicated. same quality as the other stuff - mismatched voltaged cells. the quality tolerance just isn't there for the cheaper guys. and it shows in life expectancy.
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exactly... , you can MAKE one of the "cheaper brands" quite easily. well, not easily, but it aint TOO complicated. same quality as the other stuff - mismatched voltaged cells. the quality tolerance just isn't there for the cheaper guys. and it shows in life expectancy.
It actually is quite easy if you already know how to solder. You would just need to buy some nice battery posts, the cells, and some wire. I used to make them for my RC's. If you have a balanced charger it wouldn't be a bad deal at all since you would be able to make it last, but I just don't see the point in doing it for a street bike unless you're chopping stuff off or doing some custom bike work and space is an issue.
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If you are looking at light weight, dry cell batteries.... try a Shorai versus the Ballistic.
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