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Old 11-22-2011, 03:17 AM   #1
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Modulation, or HID?

....in a bit of a quandry,

Not thrilled with the output of the fz's headlights... going with a 35w hid free's up some juice for the possbility of other accessories (heated grips, etc). And well, i find it a tad...interesting that when at a stop light, the average car behind me puts out sufficient light that I often wonder if my headlights are on.


On the other side, when I was running a modulator in the past there was some noticable benefit from the increased visibility.


Current technology however does not make the two compatible.
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Is the Fz a dual beam headlight? The HIDs use the same amount of wattage as stock halogen bulbs except they there is a more intense light output. Have you tried adjusting your lights? If they are a dual beam setup you can try converging the beams in and down more to amplify the light output.
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actually HIDs draw LESS power then reg lights.
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Is the Fz a dual beam headlight? The HIDs use the same amount of wattage as stock halogen bulbs except they there is a more intense light output. Have you tried adjusting your lights? If they are a dual beam setup you can try converging the beams in and down more to amplify the light output.

First gen uses dual 55 halogens, there are 35w & 55w hid kits, single/dual.
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actually HIDs draw LESS power then reg lights.
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Hid is the way to go. I have good output on mine
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idk.... a modulator attracts attention of drivers. more so than simply brighter headlights.
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from my past experience, just a small recommendation on installing HID's, do NOT use mechanical splice/crimp connectors.
I have a K4 GSXR 1000 that did NOT come with HID Lights and when I installed the kit, a few days later the head lights would flicker off & on.

Some motorcycle shops told me my rectifier was going bad, another one told me I needed a new battery and another one said that I needed to put a capacitor in line to buffer the voltage because of the voltage spike from the HID, hence the flickering lights.

All wanted a good chunk of change to fix the problem which I could NOT afford at the time.
I went back to the basics in trouble shooting with a voltmeter, and making sure the wire gauges were the same throught out the wiring harness.

I found varying voltage drops at the connection points. So I disconnected all of the mechanical joints/crimp splices and SOLDERED them all!!
When I put everything back together and started the bike the lights came on and the flickering lights are gone.

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or run a relay that powers straight off the battery. constant source.

i recommend that ALL installs, cars or bikes.

+ you have less chance of harming your OE wiring.
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actually HIDs draw LESS power then reg lights.

Im not sure what measurement of electricity that "power" is, but just to play semantics.. HID's actually they draw less amperage than the average halogen. IIRC (we tested in the shop one day when bored) The average H7 draws about 4.5amps, the hids (when finally warmed up) drew 3-3.5amps
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If I'm not mistaken, the biggest power draw with HID is when the ballast is kicking on.
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I've never heard of a modulated headlight, how does that work?
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I've never heard of a modulated headlight, how does that work?
It cycles the stock bulbs to pulse brighter and dimmer constantly. It's quite eye catching. They are 50 state legal I believe, by federal regulation. You can find them by googling "headlight modulator".


You see them more on cruisers.
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but is that with 35w HID or 55w? With HID, it really depends on the ballast design to determine how efficient it is.
These were oem bmw phillips ballast (the ones on older 5 series bmw's). Also they were 35w. I dont know of any cars that come with 55w HID's..

BTW HID's are on the out. I just saw the first 6-series a few days ago with High output LED headlights. They have no warm up time, and are super bright just like the HID's
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These were oem bmw phillips ballast (the ones on older 5 series bmw's). Also they were 35w. I dont know of any cars that come with 55w HID's..

BTW HID's are on the out. I just saw the first 6-series a few days ago with High output LED headlights. They have no warm up time, and are super bright just like the HID's
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