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Old 11-02-2011, 02:54 PM   #41
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That thing would get outrun by the TMGP minis at GSS.
yes but it costs less than one...
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Old 11-02-2011, 03:03 PM   #42
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Here's a thought that hasn't been beaten to death yet...

One of the most important upgrades you can do to any street bike to enhance it's trackworthyness (yes, I just made that word up) is to upgrade the suspension.
The sportbikes ALL come with VERY good suspension stock. Even then people say upgrades make a world of difference.
Chines bikes are notorious for having crappy suspension. There are very few, if any, upgrades available for them.
What is going to give you the best bang for for you dollar? A used, upgraded 600 or SV650 or a chinese bike with crappy suspension and no aftermarket?

IMHO, the answer is clearly NOT the chinese bike. That said, feel free to be the trend setter on a POS primarily because it's cheap even though it's obviously not the best criterion for making the decision.
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Old 11-02-2011, 03:16 PM   #44
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Sometimes the crowd is running away from a fire. Or a gorilla. Or a gorilla on fire.
I should have said, I'd personally go with the Ninja 250/500 or the SV, purely for the aftermarket following and the people out there racing them.

I wouldn't run away from a bike just because it wasn't a certain brand. The Chinese bike may have potential, but most people are too afraid to take that chance.
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Old 11-02-2011, 03:20 PM   #45
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Fixed that for you, since you obviously can't spell

But, back on topic: have you ridden the bike he is looking at buying? Have you personally wrecked one? Had pieces of manled steel go through your chest?

No?

Didn't think so.

Quit being a fear monger, and stop following the crowd.
Obviously you have no idea what an internet meme is. Yes I have ridden a bike with chinese parts. Yes I have had them catastrophically fail and yes I do have permanent injuries from it.

Thanks for making absolutely no point.
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Old 11-02-2011, 03:21 PM   #46
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The ninja 500's had suspension. I bet this china bike has better.
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Old 11-02-2011, 03:26 PM   #47
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Obviously you have no idea what an internet meme is. Yes I have ridden a bike with chinese parts. Yes I have had them catastrophically fail and yes I do have permanent injuries from it.

Thanks for making absolutely no point.
You just proved my point FOR ME. Thanks!

Stop being facetious. You have zero empirical evidence of "catastrophic failure."

As for meme's, heres one for you:

250cc for the track
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You just proved my point FOR ME. Thanks!

Stop being facetious. You have zero empirical evidence of "catastrophic failure."

As for meme's, heres one for you:

250cc for the track
Done arguing with such a simple minded fool. So back to the original thread, just don't do it.
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Old 11-02-2011, 04:52 PM   #49
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Dont do it. I have bought bikes way cheaper for track day bikes. I am sure the quality of the bike is not worth the 1800.
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Old 11-02-2011, 04:59 PM   #50
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Done arguing with such a simple minded fool. So back to the original thread, just don't do it.
oh u mad cuz im stylin' on you?

You're right, you are done, because you have no proof to back up your claims. Run along and play, now.
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Old 11-02-2011, 05:44 PM   #51
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I say go for it. The chinese are known for their well engineered, high quality, performance motorsports. Chinese bikes belong on thew track, not like practical grocery getting r6's or whatever. Just get it and let us know how it turns out. Be sure to spend a lot on upgrades. Not that this killer really needs it...
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Top speed 60 mph, perfect if U wanna get run the fuc over, the ninja will do 100+, parts availibility,etc. I guarantee U wont be happy with that , thats barely a pit bike
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Old 11-02-2011, 05:47 PM   #52
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The ninja 500's had suspension. I bet this china bike has better.
I was talking about sports bikes. Maybe the Ninja 500 had crappy suspension but it wasn't a sportsbike.

In any case, my point remains the same. Crappy suspension doesn't lend itself well to track riding.
If it can be upgraded easily then it's not a big deal but if not, then why not spend the money on something that will be better suited to track riding and not base the decision solely on how cheap it is?
As mentioned a used SV or older 600 is a better starting point with a larger dealer network and more aftermarket support. With that thought in mind the price becomes a non-issue and the track experience will be better.
Better brakes, more power, better suspension and easy upgrades.
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Old 11-03-2011, 07:20 AM   #54
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I was talking about sports bikes. Maybe the Ninja 500 had crappy suspension but it wasn't a sportsbike.

In any case, my point remains the same. Crappy suspension doesn't lend itself well to track riding.
If it can be upgraded easily then it's not a big deal but if not, then why not spend the money on something that will be better suited to track riding and not base the decision solely on how cheap it is?
As mentioned a used SV or older 600 is a better starting point with a larger dealer network and more aftermarket support. With that thought in mind the price becomes a non-issue and the track experience will be better.
Better brakes, more power, better suspension and easy upgrades.
^^^^^ I have never been to a track... (On list to do..) but what that guy said makes alot of sense. And everyone knows you wanna be THAT guy! Running around looking like a bumblebee, upgrading SVs like a bauzz!
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I say go for it. The chinese are known for their well engineered, high quality, performance motorsports. Chinese bikes belong on thew track, not like practical grocery getting r6's or whatever. Just get it and let us know how it turns out. Be sure to spend a lot on upgrades. Not that this killer really needs it...
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If you want to try something different than be my guest.

My advice, go with a proven platform that has all the goodies on it for around the same price.

In the end its your money and your decision.
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