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Old 11-16-2006, 08:08 PM   #1
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Question Why Do We (sportbikers) Get A Bad Rap

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We all see and hear all the bad press about sportikes flying around on freeways and what not. In my opinion that is safer than the Harley guys that just ride from bar to bar and just get -hammered and ride around. I dont know about you guys but when I am drinkin my bike is locked away! Recent example a few miles from my house: http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/10311558/detail.html PS-I know not all sportbike guys fly around and I know all Harley guys dont go bar to bar, but I just hear about the sportbike stuff more than the Harley stuff and I am sure it happens just as often.. No offense to HD riders.(that never wave, and act like )
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Old 11-16-2006, 08:12 PM   #2
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SS riders tend to ride dangerously and Harley guys tend to be declasse dirtbags. Personally, I don't hear more about one than the other. There seem to be more SS's on the road than Harleys.
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SS riders tend to ride dangerously and Harley guys tend to be declasse dirtbags. Personally, I don't hear more about one than the other. There seem to be more SS's on the road than Harleys.
There is ignorent people in every hobby or sport, cars and or bikes, that will always get the attention of the press, the news, etc. Unfortunately no body really cares to read a paper that says how safe we ride through the highways and side roads. But you let 1 of us stand it on 1 wheel, or let a someone believe your hitting high speeds and whole world is interested all the sudden.
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^^Yup. Case in point: Me and a bunch of friends liked to jeep in the dry river bottoms of Uvalde. We weren't alone, though. There were others who would do the same but they would also change their oil, litter and do other stupid stuff. It wasn't too long ago that we were banned by the state from entering the river bottoms. One bad apple spoils the bunch. Sucks, indeed.
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Old 11-16-2006, 08:54 PM   #5
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harley guys never wave.... and imo alot not all harley guys dont ride all the time their bikes just sit in their garage
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What gets noticed more?

20 harleys riding down the highway at conservative speeds
or
2 crotch rockets speeding down the highway

The fact that the harley guys have had a few drinks goes unnoticed because, well, you cannot tell untill one screws up. The crotch rockets will be noticed and remembered by many, every time, screw up or not!
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What gets noticed more?

The crotch rockets will be noticed and remembered by many, every time, screw up or not!
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Which grabs your attention more visually... a cruiser laying along the road, or the SB that buried in the front seat of a sedan?

Look at the various images of accidents scattered about the net...

Which ones are more common and tend to be more gruesome and memorable?
Which ones more often had someone that died or was crippled in the 16-20 age bracket?
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Why Do We (sportbikers) Get A Bad Rap

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I think the guy who is quoted here is using "selective perception." That is, he THINKS there is more bad press about Sport bikes, so those are the articles that he notices.

Personally, I think there is bad press about motorcycles in general. Of course, when do you hear about bikes...when there's an accident. I don't think we should be debating over whether there is more bad press about Harleys or sport bikes...but we should be talking about how to get some positive press for the sport/hobby in general.

.....and I wave at everyone. Sport bike riders NEVER wave back at me.

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saw this on another forum and thought it would be a good debate here.....

so lets hear everyone's two cents.


We all see and hear all the bad press about sportikes flying around on freeways and what not. In my opinion that is safer than the Harley guys that just ride from bar to bar and just get -hammered and ride around. I dont know about you guys but when I am drinkin my bike is locked away! Recent example a few miles from my house: http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/10311558/detail.html PS-I know not all sportbike guys fly around and I know all Harley guys dont go bar to bar, but I just hear about the sportbike stuff more than the Harley stuff and I am sure it happens just as often.. No offense to HD riders.(that never wave, and act like )
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I think the guy who is quoted here is using "selective perception." That is, he THINKS there is more bad press about Sport bikes, so those are the articles that he notices.

Personally, I think there is bad press about motorcycles in general. Of course, when do you hear about bikes...when there's an accident. I don't think we should be debating over whether there is more bad press about Harleys or sport bikes...but we should be talking about how to get some positive press for the sport/hobby in general.

.....and I wave at everyone. Sport bike riders NEVER wave back at me.

Here you go, Barbie.
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Sorry man I can't help your point. I was born an idiot. Taking too many chances. My guardian angels have lost their feathers from stress.

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saw this on another forum and thought it would be a good debate here.....

so lets hear everyone's two cents.


We all see and hear all the bad press about sportikes flying around on freeways and what not. In my opinion that is safer than the Harley guys that just ride from bar to bar and just get -hammered and ride around. I dont know about you guys but when I am drinkin my bike is locked away! Recent example a few miles from my house: http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/10311558/detail.html PS-I know not all sportbike guys fly around and I know all Harley guys dont go bar to bar, but I just hear about the sportbike stuff more than the Harley stuff and I am sure it happens just as often.. No offense to HD riders.(that never wave, and act like )

Here is my opinion on the subject; 1. sportbike owner are majority younger (18-35) which are eager and thought that they are immortal/fearless. 2. Colors on the bikes grabs more attention and retained in memory longer than just chrome out bikes. 3. Once on the thing, you transformed yourself to a power ranger and rides it like one, which is hard to help sometimes.

Just like dressing yourself up for the occasion. You tend to behave the way you are dressed, being bikes are the clothes.
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Sportbikes are cheaper, making them accessible to more 18 year olds. They do dumb and make the 30 year sportbikers look bad.
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.....and I wave at everyone. Sport bike riders NEVER wave back at me.
Interesting.... here's a take from another perspective; I also wave at all other riders, however, a lot of Harley riders choose not to wave back when I'm on a sportbike. If I'm out riding my Bandit, 99% of the riders wave back, I take a ride on the 600RR, over 50% of the Harley crowd don't.

I've been riding 29 years. Motorcycles here in the U.S. have always been perceived less than positively by the general non-riding public.

In the last 6 or 7 years though, that perception has gotten worse, due to what I believe are the following factors;

Increased occurance of stunting on crowded highways and general idiocy; weaving through traffic at 130 mph, riding on a cars , cutting too close to a car to make a pass, etc.

More people running from the law. I'm not sure why this became the "in" thing to do, but all it does is endanger the life of the runner as well as innocent bystanders, and it makes for news the media just can't get enough of.

More people crashing their bikes, sometimes spectacularly.
With the increase in rider population, obviously the increase in accidents will happen.
Add to that the fact that there are no real licensing laws, the trend of newbie riders on 1000cc sportbikes, the middle aged "comeback" rider on the biggest / heaviest cruiser his wallet can handle, and you have a recipe for increased accidents.

With fuel prices continuing to climb, we will be seeing more and more people turning to motorcycles as a way of transportation. You can already see it happening in the scooter market.

How this will impact peoples perception / acceptance of us as a whole is anybodies guess.

My opinion is that we will see some shifts in the laws regarding everything from licensing to what mods you can perform on your bike.
I'm not looking forward to some non-riding legislator deciding some of these issues.
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