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Old 11-01-2011, 12:53 PM   #1
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triumph specialist in houston?

got a buddy w/ a daytona 650 2004 or so. doesnt start. motor turns over. fuel pump kicks on. fresh battery. just wont fire up. any help is appreciated.

little history. bought used. fired right up. battery was dead. ended up replacing it. worked fine then wouldnt start. took into shop. shop said charging system was fine. keep battery on a tender so that is not the issue. then for some reason oil pressure sensor was the culprit. but couldnt have been the main issue b/c even w/o it when originally purchased, it fired right up. oil pressure sensor replaced and was working for a bit. but back to square one, does not fire up.

anybody well versed in triumphs that would maybe point to some common problems that I am unaware of?? any help is greatly appreciated.
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Old 11-01-2011, 12:55 PM   #2
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got a buddy w/ a daytona 650 2004 or so. doesnt start. motor turns over. fuel pump kicks on. fresh battery. just wont fire up. any help is appreciated.

little history. bought used. fired right up. battery was dead. ended up replacing it. worked fine then wouldnt start. took into shop. shop said charging system was fine. keep battery on a tender so that is not the issue. then for some reason oil pressure sensor was the culprit. but couldnt have been the main issue b/c even w/o it when originally purchased, it fired right up. oil pressure sensor replaced and was working for a bit. but back to square one, does not fire up.

anybody well versed in triumphs that would maybe point to some common problems that I am unaware of?? any help is greatly appreciated.
http://www.triumphrat.net/daytona-de...ont-start.html

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Old 11-01-2011, 01:07 PM   #3
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Is there spark at the plugs?
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Old 11-01-2011, 01:10 PM   #4
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If you need to take it to someone, I'd recommend polaris west in Katy, they've done some good work on my triumph.
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Old 11-01-2011, 01:19 PM   #5
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I take mine to Patrick at Motorcycles Unlimited and he's always done right by me. Got the throttle bodies balanced, valves adjusted, new sprocket and chain with no problems. If your friends is an 04 it's a 600. I've heard the tip over switch can go bad have you tried that?
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Old 11-01-2011, 01:22 PM   #6
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Not sure if the sprag clutch was an issue on that model Triumph, but it is on mine. Recently replaced mine. The part alone was $300 but it's simple to replace.

With a sprag clutch, it will crank and then suddenly stop cranking as if the motor siezed up. Eventually it just wears down your battery.
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Old 11-01-2011, 01:33 PM   #7
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Yes there is spark. I will look into the tip over sensor and the sprag clutch (whatever the that is...haha)

but w/ tip over sensor, would the motor turn over? i dont think so, but please advise.
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Old 11-01-2011, 01:37 PM   #8
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I think the tip over switch cuts the fuel supply but I'm not 100%. As I said I take my bike to Patrick. Good Luck and please post your solution incase it ever happens to mine.....lol
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Old 11-01-2011, 06:44 PM   #10
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any other suggestions? thanks for the info!!
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If the tip over sensor was bad the fuel pump would not cycle.
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Not sure if the sprag clutch was an issue on that model Triumph, but it is on mine. Recently replaced mine. The part alone was $300 but it's simple to replace.

With a sprag clutch, it will crank and then suddenly stop cranking as if the motor siezed up. Eventually it just wears down your battery.
I don't want to thread jack can you PM the detail, I'm having the same issue but its intermittent
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If you need to take it to someone, I'd recommend polaris west in Katy, they've done some good work on my triumph.
+1 I didn't feel comfortable with the one in Pasadena, I like the one in Katy better.
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Old 11-01-2011, 07:10 PM   #13
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How long did the bike set for? Fuel pump could still be your issue you would need to check pressure/flow/leak-down of the pump just "hearing" it is not the proper test procedure. Is maintenance up to date? You could run around that bike finding small issues that COULD cause a running problem. Miles on the bike would help people also. If you are doing a full diag your self you need to start with the basics.. Fuel pressure/flow/leak-down, Cylinder compression/leak-down, ignition and timing. If you are trying to diag a triumph around this age a simple skipped step will bite you in the . If you plan on taking it too a shop be prepared to pay a decent amount for diag time... It could be something simple or it could be several things that take some time to diag. VERY seldom does a Triumph Daytona 1998-2005 have one simple problem causing a issue.
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Old 11-01-2011, 11:44 PM   #15
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word. how much help would pulling the codes be? would it necessarily pin down the problem or do i need to do a manual diagnostic starting w/ fuel/ compression/ spark etc.
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Old 11-02-2011, 08:53 AM   #16
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Pulling codes if it has any would be a start but I woild not rely on it pining down a problem. First step would be hooking up to computer to read sensors and see if anything sticks out. From there you would determine the direction for your diag.
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I tried Polaris west, needless to say after talkin to the service guys I turned around and walked out. oh and they mangled a friends airbox on his bonneville so bad it had to d replaced, which they refused to do.
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