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Old 10-31-2011, 09:37 AM   #21
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The fact remains that cold tires and cold roads equal less traction.
Your post seems to indicate otherwise. Hopefully some noob rider doesn't take your post as gospel and finds out the hard way that less traction is available when cold.
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Congrats! What do you want, a cookie?
Sure, chocolate chip is my fave, but this post was just for info purposes on cold tire performance. Certainly nothing to brag about or be proud of.

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The fact remains that cold tires and cold roads equal less traction.
Your post seems to indicate otherwise. Hopefully some noob rider doesn't take your post as gospel and finds out the hard way that less traction is available when cold.
+1 that was my first thought when I read it
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Sure, chocolate chip is my fave, but this post was just for info purposes on cold tire performance. Certainly nothing to brag about or be proud of.

Give any praise to Honda and Bridgestone
I just ate the last one while reading your post. How about a nice lemon cookie instead?

And everybody knows Pirelli is better than Bridgestone
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The fact remains that cold tires and cold roads equal less traction.
Your post seems to indicate otherwise. Hopefully some noob rider doesn't take your post as gospel and finds out the hard way that less traction is available when cold.
Yes, cold tires and cold surfaces = less traction. However, there's a myth many riders believe about how "slippery" motorcycle tires are even in ideal conditions.

GENERAL WARNING...FOR YOUR SAFETY DO NOT RIDE LIKE I DO OR FOR THAT MATTER...AT ALL
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hmmmm is this thread any diff. then a "stunter" about riding like a jackass?
Guess that depends on if you believe Honda designed the bike to be ridden the way I do or for stunting. FYI, there's little traffic at 4am and I was alone on both ramps. I only do 10 over on the straights. That ok?
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However, there's a myth many riders believe about how "slippery" motorcycle tires are even in ideal conditions.
Perhaps, but considering the number of novice riders here, and the potential for injury if they exceed available traction, it seems as though it would be best to make that transition conservatively, not by being called out.

I.E. When I started racing 30 some odd years ago I didn't go flying down into T1 at TWS (Texas World Speedway) with the throttle pinned the first time, or even the 10th time around the track. I worked up to it gradually, learning to trust my tires and suspension as well as my abilities.

At the end of the day you could have the latest Moto GP slicks hot off the warmers, but if you don't have the trust in your abilities developed by experience you're not going to go very fast, and still may wreck.

While we're talking about cold tires, don't forget to check your pressures. A point I brought up here:
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Perhaps, but considering the number of novice riders here, and the potential for injury if they exceed available traction, it seems as though it would be best to make that transition conservatively, not by being called out.

I.E. When I started racing 30 some odd years ago I didn't go flying down into T1 at TWS (Texas World Speedway) with the throttle pinned the first time, or even the 10th time around the track. I worked up to it gradually, learning to trust my tires and suspension as well as my abilities.

At the end of the day you could have the latest Moto GP slicks hot off the warmers, but if you don't have the trust in your abilities developed by experience you're not going to go very fast, and still may wreck.

While we're talking about cold tires, don't forget to check your pressures. A point I brought up here:
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+1 Crashes are rarely the tire's fault
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Bevo, I did not mean to slap your hand or to try and tell you how to ride...
it is just that, as I mentioned, I lost a good friend this year doing the kind of thing you said you were doing... he got in over his head and lost it... died right there on the ramp...
I guess I was just concerned that what you were saying about the speed you were going, and the temps you were riding at... might encourage someone to do what they were not capable of pulling off...in my mind, you were backhandedly giving advise, and advise that this old man, who has been riding for 47 years, felt could get someone seriously hurt, or dead...
I know that was not your intention.
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Bevo could put a knee down on an ice covered track with tires made of ice on a motorcycle powered by ice wearing a helmet made of ice with a steely glare that looks like ice.

And by ice I mean meth. Bevo does a lot of it. This is why we don't listen to Bevo.
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I'm not encouraging anything and I did end with this "your experience may vary".

MotoHouston promotes motorcycle riding and riders crash at speeds lower than the posted limit. Should we stop posting all together? Riders crash at the track, should we discourage trackdays?
Nope...you came here to brag about it and see what kind of shyte you could initiate. In short, yes you are encouraging something...just don't have the juevos to admit it. :-)
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Bottom line, known your limits and ride within them. Bevo has many years and miles of experience. Imitation may be the best form of flattery, but not on 2 wheels. And Bevo always wears full leathers, everywhere, no matter what.
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Nope...you came here to brag about it and see what kind of shyte you could initiate. In short, yes you are encouraging something...just don't have the juevos to admit it. :-)
Funny, I've ridden this route this way for more than 3 years and this is the first time I've posted it.

Believe what you want since I don't think we've ever met, but this post was about cold tires in cool weather. The previous posts on tire pressure prompted it.
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I think I would have kept that info to myself...
just opens up another possible flaming thread...
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Come on bevo!!!! You knew what direction this thread was going to go before posting it........lmao. i get it!!! Are you going to make it out to gss on the 6th???
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Come on bevo!!!! You knew what direction this thread was going to go before posting it........lmao. i get it!!! Are you going to make it out to gss on the 6th???
I forgot all about that...yea, If the weather is good I'll do parade laps. Maybe even organize a ride

You doing a track day?
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Yup. Weather looks grest so far. Are you going to drag viffer out??? Haha
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Yup. Weather looks grest so far. Are you going to drag viffer out??? Haha
I think he's doing 3 sisters then. It will be good to see you, brother
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bevo, if you are at GSS be sure an say hello.. i should not be too hard to spot, other than dinosaur, I will be one of the few with white hair and beard...
not sure if I am going to be riding or just spectating this time, couple of other issues I have to work out between now and then if I am going to ride, but either way I should be there...
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bevo, if you are at GSS be sure an say hello.. i should not be too hard to spot, other than dinosaur, I will be one of the few with white hair and beard...
not sure if I am going to be riding or just spectating this time, couple of other issues I have to work out between now and then if I am going to ride, but either way I should be there...
I just posted up a Noob Friendly ride for Parade Laps, brother. You're welcome to join us
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