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Old 11-15-2006, 01:29 PM   #21
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oil is not oil its not all made the same and yes you can get more HP out of some oil not saying alot of HP but it is a lubicate

put thats just what i think

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Old 11-15-2006, 01:37 PM   #22
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there is no way in that oil can give HP.

if anything its like that stupid reline , its so thin its like water, thus allowing you to rev a bit quicker because of less mass holding it back.

and in my book that = really fking bad for the engine, when you take away lubercant.
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Old 11-15-2006, 01:51 PM   #23
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So, what you're saying is that Wally World oil is the same as Mobil 1 Syn?

I mean, I know for a FACT that my bike performs better with Amsoil than it does with HD Syn 3.

I think you have a good point but it's a bit generalized, IMO.

Mobil 1 is Mobil 1 they dont make special oil for walmart to sell.
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Old 11-15-2006, 01:53 PM   #24
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Mobil 1 is Mobil 1 they dont make special oil for walmart to sell.
I know.. thank you for backing up the point I was trying to make.
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My bike runs smoother and and shifts better on mobil 1 then on other oils I have tried.
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Old 11-15-2006, 02:09 PM   #26
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Believe what you want.

There is no difference between "motorcycle" oil and auto oil.

There is no API quality designation or standard for Motorcycle Oil.

For those of you who don't drink the moto-coolaid, read this.

http://www.nightrider.com/biketech/oiltest1.htm

Use a good synthetic (ie Mobil1 or Royal Purple) and you can't go wrong.
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Old 11-15-2006, 02:12 PM   #27
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OK, that makes more sense.
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Believe what you want.

There is no difference between "motorcycle" oil and auto oil.

There is no API quality designation or standard for Motorcycle Oil.

For those of you who don't drink the moto-coolaid, read this.

http://www.nightrider.com/biketech/oiltest1.htm

Use a good synthetic (ie Mobil1 or Royal Purple) and you can't go wrong.

I agree oil is oil but you cant go wrong with synthetic espically mobil 1
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Old 11-15-2006, 02:22 PM   #29
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hes not trying to put down synthetics, what he is saying is a oil that is labled as "made for motorcycles" is nothing more then the regular (synthetic, but prolly sometimes dino) automobile oil.
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Old 11-15-2006, 02:58 PM   #30
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Take your time and read this article, motorcycle specific info at the end.

http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/Oils1.html
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Take your time and read this article, motorcycle specific info at the end.

http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/Oils1.html
Yes I have read it. I use that website for it's oil filter cross reference list.

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Most motorcycles have wet clutches, which means the motor oil runs through the clutch. If the motor oil has too much molybdenum in it, there are fears that the clutch can start slipping. No one I know has ever actually had this happen to them, but the warnings are all over your owners' manual and the oil companies' web pages.
I point to the underlined parts above. There is still no proof that this effects anything.

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On the back of all certified oil cans is a circular stamp with the certification.
When was the last time motor oil that was sold in a can? When was this article first published? 1972?

When was the last time any of us bought a "can" of motor oil? They are now sold by the quart in plastic bottles.
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I can tell you that a Honda clutch does not like molybdenum.
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Old 11-21-2006, 08:13 PM   #33
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there is no way in that oil can give HP.
true dat. it frees up whats already there by letting the motor spin faster through it. this is your thinner oil. for tighter clearances for looser clearances use thicker oil. ive run into this problem on the over bore sv650 motors. down in the souf it gets to hot during the summer so the thinner oil doesnt do its job as well because it gets to hot. so we use 20 50 in all of our bikes except for racebikes. the gsxr gets valvolene racing 20 50 the stock sv650 gets 30 and the built sv gets 40 weight
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Old 11-21-2006, 08:24 PM   #34
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My preference is the Mobil 1 synthetic MX4T 10w40... I by it at auto zone but I am starting to see it at Walmart in the motorcycle section where they sell the helmets and all.
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Old 11-21-2006, 08:32 PM   #35
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wal mart helmets scare me.
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the only time that synthetic makes a differance is when the motor is running non stop for a LOOOOOOOONNNNNNNGGGGGGG time other than that theres not really a difference
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the only time that synthetic makes a differance is when the motor is running non stop for a LOOOOOOOONNNNNNNGGGGGGG time other than that theres not really a difference
hmmmm.... tell me more
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Old 11-21-2006, 08:55 PM   #38
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What's the best oil? Whatever one that doesn't let your engine turn into a molten pile of .

Seriously though, there is a difference between car and bike oils, mostly it's in the additives; friction modifiers are different, car oils have detergents that bike oils don't because they can attack clutch plates and many other differences.

As I posted awhile back, there's a lot of opinions on oil and filters out there.

I base mine on the thousands of engines I've torn down over the last 29 years and seeing how different engines wore and what oil was used.

Some good, although lengthy information on the differences between motorcycles and car oil can be found here:

http://www.sportrider.com/tech/146_0308_oil/

and here:

http://www.sportrider.com/tech/146_0310_oil/


Long story short, I use motorcycle specific oil only, and change it and the filter frequently.

"Oil is cheap, engines are expensive!"

My 2 cents.
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I use rotella 15w-40 diesel oil in my rc. it takes the abuse a 2 banger can dish out.
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Enlighten me on this idea, is it safe to use diesel oil?
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