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Old 11-22-2006, 08:04 AM   #41
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as was said before many people slow down on the street after doing a season of racing. For me it seems that there is no point in going fast on the street. Why people fall while racing. I take a lot of pictures at the track so I watch riders in corners. If you have a yellow shirt the chances are greater that you will throw the bike down. The mistake I most often see is front brake carried too deep.

I have gone down 4 times and the reasons
1. rear shock bracket broke:confused1
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3. Clutch slip caused highside:eh:
4. I don't know (this one caused me to quit racing):BangHead:
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Old 11-25-2006, 03:15 PM   #42
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Old 11-25-2006, 05:55 PM   #43
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go pick your self up a set of race fairings
if/when you eat , you wont trash that expensive oem bling!
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yeah i think i wrecked like 9 or 10 times in 5 trackdays

but one day i didnt wreck at all i was so sexcited about it

then the next trackday i lowsided at ~90mph
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Old 11-25-2006, 06:43 PM   #46
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The mistake I most often see is front brake carried too deep.
I'd agree with that. My first couple of track days I would carry the braking too deep and it made it difficult to get through the corner smoothly. I quickly found out to get all the braking done before you ever tip it in. As many racers would tell you, 'slow in, fast out' is the key (I'm only passing that tip on because I'm by no means a racer!). Moderate the 'fast out' with a 3 count when applying the throttle, especially on a 1K machine. It's far easier to add a little speed in a turn than it is to scrub it off when you go in with too much. A little throttle through the turn will also help settle the chassis.

Most of the people who are new to the track that I have seen go down often did it by panicking when they thought they were entering a turn too fast and they grabbed a handful of brake only to lose the front. I've seen it happen at TWS (Texas World Speedway) in T4, T5, T7 and it took people down, and in T3 I've seen people go off-roading. What do those turns all have in common? A straight leading up to them. Chances are that unless you are going way too fast your are probably going to make the turn, but if you grab a bunch of brake then the tire gets overloaded from both cornering and braking forces and loses grip and down you go.
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this is all good advice, thanks.

whats a goood way to practice body positioning, just read how you "sit" and then go sit on the bike and try to memorize that position?
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Old 11-27-2006, 06:43 PM   #48
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As for the people who are giving me sitting pointers, I got that ALL cleared up on a ride with solracer this weekend. He showed me exactally what I was doing wrong (only leaning to the side, not forward as well) and it completly changed my riding style. I dont have that "why is the bike fighting me" feeling anymore.
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Old 11-27-2006, 07:04 PM   #49
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[QUOTE=scrapp]Why, because you are too much of a billy badass, to be humble and ask for help? If you are laughing at my question, then go lowside into a telophone pole, you dickcheese, because I see nothing wrong with what im asking.

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Why, because you are too much of a billy badass, to be humble and ask for help? If you are laughing at my question, then go lowside into a telophone pole, you dickcheese, because I see nothing wrong with what im asking.

As for the people who are giving me sitting pointers, I got that ALL cleared up on a ride with solracer this weekend. He showed me exactally what I was doing wrong (only leaning to the side, not forward as well) and it completly changed my riding style. I dont have that "why is the bike fighting me" feeling anymore.
billy badass? lol i've asked for plenty of help when i was racing kthnx.. don't assume you dont know me. so you're a "rider" hoping another rider goes down? you're awesome guy, hope i never see your noob on the track! the title of this thread is halarious... cause NOOBS usually don't go down, it's the guys that think they have big or the racers that push it.

BTW SORRY HENRY and CHRIS HE BROUGHT THE DRAMA
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Old 11-27-2006, 07:42 PM   #51
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Im not trying to be rude, but explain this misunderstanding. Im asking for track help so I know what to look out for so I dont eat . If your laughing at me for that sole reason, then sure, find the nearest open manhole cover, and go do a wheelie over it.

If, IM the one with the misunderstanding, then im fully sorry for my outburst, I dont feel bad about what ive said, Im just sorry, because I made a mistake....but at the moment thats not how im reading these posts....
a little bit of both... shoulda laffed @ the title not the post, i didn't even read the post, but either way.. don't wish for another rider to go down, it's just bad for yourself....
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I had a quarrel with a rider one time...I wished he would go down. A few weeks or so later I watched as he came into a parking lot, tried to do a power wheelie with ill consiquenses, and promptly hit a curb, shattering his wrist.

Ive learned to use my power for good.
lol that's messed, except for the fact if you came to the track... and i did take you seriously, i could make you eat horrible at the track lol
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Old 11-27-2006, 08:10 PM   #53
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Strengthen your quads by doing squats or knee bends to get up some endurance you will need them for all the transitions you will be doing on the seat off the seat and hanging off the bike. Also do start doing some good stretching to limber up the groin area that way you will have an easier time opening up your hip into the turns. There's nothing worse than having fun on the track and fatigue starts to set in and the body doesn't transition fast enough so you will have to quit or slow down an neither one of those is any fun.

My low side happened when my fairing drug the ground @ 80mph and lifted the front wheel. I need to hang way way off my bike to get it to do what I wanted.......... never missed a session and lesson learned.
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I'd agree with that. My first couple of track days I would carry the braking too deep and it made it difficult to get through the corner smoothly. I quickly found out to get all the braking done before you ever tip it in. As many racers would tell you, 'slow in, fast out' is the key (I'm only passing that tip on because I'm by no means a racer!). Moderate the 'fast out' with a 3 count when applying the throttle, especially on a 1K machine. It's far easier to add a little speed in a turn than it is to scrub it off when you go in with too much. A little throttle through the turn will also help settle the chassis.

Most of the people who are new to the track that I have seen go down often did it by panicking when they thought they were entering a turn too fast and they grabbed a handful of brake only to lose the front. I've seen it happen at TWS (Texas World Speedway) in T4, T5, T7 and it took people down, and in T3 I've seen people go off-roading. What do those turns all have in common? A straight leading up to them. Chances are that unless you are going way too fast your are probably going to make the turn, but if you grab a bunch of brake then the tire gets overloaded from both cornering and braking forces and loses grip and down you go.
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Old 11-28-2006, 09:39 AM   #55
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yeah i think i wrecked like 9 or 10 times in 5 trackdays

but one day i didnt wreck at all i was so sexcited about it

then the next trackday i lowsided at ~90mph
Dang, and people were giving me a hard time. How much did that cost you in bike repairs?
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