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Old 11-13-2006, 09:32 AM   #21
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Dude, all I am saying is that two weeks ago your exhaust fell of on the way to Barry's......

....and....

......last week you were asking for a used chain because yours was worn beyond repair.

I am not you, I am only trying to look out for your safety as well as the safety of the other riders on the track.
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Old 11-13-2006, 09:34 AM   #22
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+1 to what SwiftE said.

There's a long list of reasons new people go down on the track. Here's a few, but there are many others.
(not in any particular order)

1) Trying to impress others by going too fast too soon
2) Target fixation
3) Bad body positioning
4) Thinking that because you're fast on the street, you're also fast on the track
5) Not looking through the turns

Best thing to do is get with an instructor or someone with some track experience and follow them around the track a few times, learn the lines, and then have them follow you and give you feedback afterward each session. You'll learn all kinds of things that will help you become faster and help prevent you from crashing sooner than necessary (because chances are that crashing is gonna happen eventually, unfotunately).
I have to challenge #4. I think it's more like:

4) Thinking that because you thought you were fast on the street...:icon_bigg
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Old 11-13-2006, 09:36 AM   #23
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ohhhh, no you dont have to worry about me, I understand, i was saying, in the shoddy condition the bike is, the PO still decided to track it.

NOW ME, you dont have to worry about, I know the bike is not in track condition, and I have much to do before it is. But I do want to get my mind ready for what to expect.




lol, you thought I wanted to track the bike in this condition? Dont you know me better then that?
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Old 11-13-2006, 09:51 AM   #24
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Note: going to the track will make you SLOW down on the street (in other words humble you)and make you a safer rider.
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Old 11-13-2006, 10:04 AM   #25
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Note: going to the track will make you SLOW down on the street (in other words humble you)and make you a safer rider.
I agree sort of.

After I went to the track just twice, I went to the Hill Country w/ some guys I used to ride with previous to my track experience. They were telling me I was riding WAY quicker through the turns than I used to. However, it felt way slower to me.
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Also, as for the topic of the thread. It's all about being in control of your bike. I have done about 10-12 track days at TWS (Texas World Speedway), plus 3 or 4 at Cresson and 1 at VIR. I was able to get below 2:00 at TWS (Texas World Speedway) my last 4 or 5 track days there and I have never gone down in the 16 or 17 track days I have done. The closest I ever came was in turn 3 at TWS (Texas World Speedway), I had a bent front rotor and when I went to grab a handful of brake the brake lever went all the way to the bar and no brakes. Went into the dirt, came to a stop (eventually).
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I agree sort of.

After I went to the track just twice, I went to the Hill Country w/ some guys I used to ride with previous to my track experience. They were telling me I was riding WAY quicker through the turns than I used to. However, it felt way slower to me.
yeap. but I bet you found yourself not going as fast in the straights. Sorry should of pointed that out
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Old 11-13-2006, 10:27 AM   #28
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yeap. but I bet you found yourself not going as fast in the straights...
True. Fast in the straights = pointless
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Old 11-13-2006, 10:31 AM   #29
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After my trackday I didnt even ride for about 5 days. And then I saw all the hazards on the street and let out a big WHOAH!!! Yeah I slowed down a bit on the street. But the corners and turns I use to get to my brothers house seemed like they took forever to get through.
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Old 11-13-2006, 11:19 AM   #30
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+1 to what SwiftE said.

There's a long list of reasons new people go down on the track. Here's a few, but there are many others.
(not in any particular order)

1) Trying to impress others by going too fast too soon
2) Target fixation
3) Bad body positioning
4) Thinking that because you're fast on the street, you're also fast on the track
5) Not looking through the turns

Best thing to do is get with an instructor or someone with some track experience and follow them around the track a few times, learn the lines, and then have them follow you and give you feedback afterward each session. You'll learn all kinds of things that will help you become faster and help prevent you from crashing sooner than necessary (because chances are that crashing is gonna happen eventually, unfotunately).

This is very good post. The other problem is looking through you turns too far and hitting a stupid curb. (1) is a big problem it may have had a little to do with my second get off.
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Old 11-13-2006, 11:35 AM   #31
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Check your ego at the gate and you will have a fun safe day at the track.
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Old 11-13-2006, 11:53 AM   #32
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from my experience at the track....my advice would be to ride within your limits.....if you scare yourself at any given moment...you've crossed your boundaries and must prepare to eat it....just have fun and remember it's not a race. also...give some space between you and the guy in front....because it would suck if the guy in front goes down, and you run right into his mess.
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from my experience at the track....my advice would be to ride within your limits.....if you scare yourself at any given moment...you've crossed your boundaries and must prepare to eat it....just have fun and remember it's not a race. also...give some space between you and the guy in front....because it would suck if the guy in front goes down, and you run right into his mess.
or the guy in front is much better at braking and because you were pushing it too hard you can't stop quick enough to not run into him. My biggest fear at the trackday is taking someone else out.
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Old 11-18-2006, 01:30 AM   #34
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I need tips on safe passing, not trying to say I'm fast by any means at all, but I will follow someone around for more than half a session sometimes eventhough I know I could leave them if I was in front.. only because I couldn't feel comfortable enough passing (safely).

It's more than just getting in front of them, it's doing that, without running them off the track and I need help learning how to do this.
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Old 11-18-2006, 04:53 PM   #35
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In 8 track days, my only get off was when someone got too agressive in a turn and hit me and knocked me into the grass, water and mud at MRS Houston.

At your first track day, spent most of the day learning the track, your bike and yourself. If you do LSTD, take the course. Stephen Porter and now Ronnie Hay are good teachers and so are the on track instructors. Ask questions and use there knowedge and experience to your benefit.
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Old 11-18-2006, 05:03 PM   #36
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in my 5 track days i had one get off at TWS (Texas World Speedway)..... pretty much i was asking for it.. i was running to quick of times on street tires and a cold track. just take it easy and everything will be fine..
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Old 11-18-2006, 05:31 PM   #37
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Old 11-18-2006, 05:50 PM   #38
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i went down twice this yr............i beleive due to sliding the back out............so does that mean i need off the throttle? give it moreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee hahhahahah
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Old 11-18-2006, 07:05 PM   #40
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no was on a 125 lol. i have two theories behind my crash, one is the tire had something slick on them like oil or whatever from other bikes going down in the same corner or two my footpeg hit the ground and lifted the rear just enought to wipeout.
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