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Old 11-12-2006, 02:52 PM   #1
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how often to n00bs go down at the track?

Scale 1-10, how often to people new to track riding, or I guess anyone in general, go down? whats the main reasons for it (IE: pushing it too far)

Just trying to get some opinions or things to watch out for so I dont get added to the list too soon.
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Old 11-12-2006, 02:57 PM   #2
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I think it depends alot on the person.
If you ride within your limits - you are safe
Start to ride above your limit or ride to keep up or compete with others on the track and it becomes dangerous
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Old 11-12-2006, 03:52 PM   #3
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i only got to go once this year, but I HOPE to go more next year. Just gettin all my gear and everything ready for next year. Yea Yea!!
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everybody will eventually go down, being your fault or not.

most accidents happen in the intermediate groups where the riders are NOT new and ride slow as ****, and they arent experienced enough to pass correctly like the experts.
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Scale 1-10, how often to people new to track riding, or I guess anyone in general, go down? whats the main reasons for it (IE: pushing it too far)

Just trying to get some opinions or things to watch out for so I dont get added to the list too soon.
Well, i get my girl to go down a lot and I do for her but its really personal so I cant give details on technique. Yanowhatibesayin?
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Old 11-12-2006, 04:52 PM   #6
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^^:laughing6 ..............He doesn't know anything about that.
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Seriously, I lowsided in turn 10 at msrh because my throttle was sticking and I had to grab the front brake and i was already committed to the turn and tucked the front. hit the pavement and then the grass so damage was minimal. I found that my throttle grip was rubbing the bar end and wasnt releasing when I let off the throttle.
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Seriously, I lowsided in turn 10 at msrh because my throttle was sticking and I had to grab the front brake and i was already committed to the turn and tucked the front. hit the pavement and then the grass so damage was minimal. I found that my throttle grip was rubbing the bar end and wasnt releasing when I let off the throttle.
I sat out one session trying to get my head straight and then went back out and in the same turn i almost ate it again . I just rode it out through the grass and went to the paddock and thats when I found the problem.
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+1 to what SwiftE said.

There's a long list of reasons new people go down on the track. Here's a few, but there are many others.
(not in any particular order)

1) Trying to impress others by going too fast too soon
2) Target fixation
3) Bad body positioning
4) Thinking that because you're fast on the street, you're also fast on the track
5) Not looking through the turns

Best thing to do is get with an instructor or someone with some track experience and follow them around the track a few times, learn the lines, and then have them follow you and give you feedback afterward each session. You'll learn all kinds of things that will help you become faster and help prevent you from crashing sooner than necessary (because chances are that crashing is gonna happen eventually, unfotunately).
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Old 11-12-2006, 04:59 PM   #10
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Mulatto, thanks. If I didnt tell you that before. I hope to see you out there at the track when I get back to the states.
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JRock, no problem! Let me know when you get back, and I'll see you at the track.
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Old 11-12-2006, 05:14 PM   #12
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Quote:
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+1 to what SwiftE said.

There's a long list of reasons new people go down on the track. Here's a few, but there are many others.
(not in any particular order)

1) Trying to impress others by going too fast too soon
2) Target fixation
3) Bad body positioning
4) Thinking that because you're fast on the street, you're also fast on the track
5) Not looking through the turns

Best thing to do is get with an instructor or someone with some track experience and follow them around the track a few times, learn the lines, and then have them follow you and give you feedback afterward each session. You'll learn all kinds of things that will help you become faster and help prevent you from crashing sooner than necessary (because chances are that crashing is gonna happen eventually, unfotunately).
+1 to everything he and SwiftE just said.
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Old 11-12-2006, 08:18 PM   #13
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This was my first year. I did 9 track days before going down. I blame the slick track, worn tires, and myself for being too greedy with the throttle.
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...add to that the fact that people don't always realize the fatigure that starts to set in later in the day. All of the downed riders in Level 1 this Saturday were in the last 2 or 3 sessions.

The first session after lunch was my best all day (probably because I got my sugar level back up) but the very next session was my worst so I called it a day. No sense ruining a good day just to get another few laps.
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Old 11-13-2006, 08:56 AM   #15
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Both of my crashes in 2004 happened late in the day last session or so... once the fatigue sets in, forget it. For your safety and that of others on the track, if you're tire you should call it a day.
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Old 11-13-2006, 09:05 AM   #16
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this is all good advice, thanks.

whats a goood way to practice body positioning, just read how you "sit" and then go sit on the bike and try to memorize that position?
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Old 11-13-2006, 09:08 AM   #17
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Scrapp, don't go to the track, you will do down your first time out.

I do not question your riding skills, I question the reliability of your bike.
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Old 11-13-2006, 09:17 AM   #18
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LOL, wtfux!!!!

I wont be going to the track anytime soon, I want to first FIND A JOB, and then fix everything on the bike, so im not shooting for a track day untill sometime next year.

do you still think I should not go?
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Old 11-13-2006, 09:25 AM   #19
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I think your interest in tracking your bike is premature.

Next year is a long way off and you have a lot to do between now and then.

Your bike is not trackable as is, too many things fall off.
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Old 11-13-2006, 09:29 AM   #20
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Say that to the previous owner, He took it to the track, I dont know if it was just once, or more.

some of the people here would be able to tell me.
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