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Old 11-09-2006, 03:12 PM   #1
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Where was my mistake????

Ok I'm riding down Ella Tuesday and I'm only going about 50. I get to a yellow light and start to make an abrupt stop because I didn't know how long the light would remain yellow. I get on my rear brake first and then go to my front brakes. But instead of the using more of my front brakes like I usually do, I think the combination was like 60% rear and 40% front. Here's the scary part. My rear tire starts sliding to my right, I put more front brake and it slow's down a little and I gradually add more front to stop the sliding. Now it seems like an easy process now but for a moment it scared the shyt outta me. I pulled into a parking lot and saw that I had some light gravel on my tire, I wiped it off and tested my braking again and proceeded to ride the other side of houston and back. Another factor to mention is that my rear tire is gettting low on tread. Was my mistake putting to much rear brake? The gravel on the tire? Or my low tread? Or was it a combination of all. This was my first scary moment on a bike. I want to constantly learn from my mistakes so let the experts weigh in. :notworthy :notworthy
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go w/ your ft brake first........and prolly a combo of all the above.

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it seems that you locked your rear.
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Learn to use your front brake. Most people are unaware of how much stopping power it has. Then when used with the rear properly you can really shut it down quick.
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go w/ your ft brake first........and prolly a combo of all the above.

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+1...Front brake should be the main source of your braking. The front supplies between 60% to 80% of your total braking ability. I'd take the MSF if you haven't, learn alot with a good instructor...congradulations on the save tho...
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+1...Front brake should be the main source of your braking. The front supplies between 60% to 80% of your total braking ability. I'd take the MSF if you haven't, learn alot with a good instructor...congradulations on the save tho...

Thanks, the crazy thing is I have taken the MSF couse and I usually do use my front brake more, but I think lately at low speeds I've gotten lazy and I've been using the rear brake more than I should. But this definitely was a wake up call.
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go w/ your ft brake first........and prolly a combo of all the above.

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lol, ed, you're like the official msf poster boy!
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I never use the rear brake except to scrub a little speed off for corner entry. All of the stopping power is in the front.
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Try some braking drills in an isolated parking lot or something. This is the same thing Ty Howard does for his race class. You can really use the front brake alot more then most people imagine. The front end may not be to happy with you but, it will teach you to slow down in a hurry.

Set a cone up and find a distance that you can get up to the top of 2nd or 3rd gear then practice shutting it down at the cone. You can use a secondary cone for your brake marker as well and slowly move it closer to the other cone limiting your braking distance.

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Thanks, the crazy thing is I have taken the MSF couse and I usually do use my front brake more, but I think lately at low speeds I've gotten lazy and I've been using the rear brake more than I should. But this definitely was a wake up call.
Lol...yea you can't be gettin' complacent or lazy out there on that bike mane. It'll check you every once n a while in order to wake you up. Have you taken the advanced MSF? If eligible, I'd advise it...be careful out there...
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Old 11-09-2006, 03:41 PM   #15
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Ever watched the show Speed on Two Wheels? They do repeat it on TV sometimes, I think the Discovery Channel? Think about getting the DVD http://www.speedontwowheels.com/ It has a segment in there about braking and they demonstrate the difference of the brakes vividly.
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Sounds like you just gave it too much rear brake, initiating a rear wheel slide. Good job on not panicking and getting her stopped.
I typically apply my front brakes first, and then add rear pressure to suit how fast I need to slow down.
Your best bet is too practice braking drills in an empty parking lot. Make sure your tire pressure is good too.
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Thanks for all the advice peeps, I definitely will get out there and work on some braking drills. And I'll definitely use my front brake a lot more. And I think I'm gonna check out the advanced MSF class pretty soon also.
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if its sliding already, not letting off of the brake will help as well, its when you let off the brake and the tire tries to start getting traction back that it'll mess you up, just dont panic hold what you got and it will straighten up on its own. at least thats what i've learned over the last year.
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if its sliding already, not letting off of the brake will help as well, its when you let off the brake and the tire tries to start getting traction back that it'll mess you up, just dont panic hold what you got and it will straighten up on its own. at least thats what i've learned over the last year.
As long as you still have some track once it hooks up. Made that mistake a few times.
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Ok I'm riding down Ella Tuesday and I'm only going about 50. I get to a yellow light and start to make an abrupt stop because I didn't know how long the light would remain yellow. I get on my rear brake first and then go to my front brakes. But instead of the using more of my front brakes like I usually do, I think the combination was like 60% rear and 40% front. Here's the scary part. My rear tire starts sliding to my right, I put more front brake and it slow's down a little and I gradually add more front to stop the sliding. Now it seems like an easy process now but for a moment it scared the shyt outta me. I pulled into a parking lot and saw that I had some light gravel on my tire, I wiped it off and tested my braking again and proceeded to ride the other side of houston and back. Another factor to mention is that my rear tire is gettting low on tread. Was my mistake putting to much rear brake? The gravel on the tire? Or my low tread? Or was it a combination of all. This was my first scary moment on a bike. I want to constantly learn from my mistakes so let the experts weigh in. :notworthy :notworthy
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