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Old 10-05-2011, 09:07 AM   #21
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People, both regular riders and instructors, keep telling me that I need to hang off more. Sadly, that's about all the advice your average instructor is going to give unless you're totally up a corner or you ask for help on something explicit.

Earlier this season I decided that my body position was "good enough" and started working on other aspects of my riding. Consequentially, this has been my most progressive season ever. I'm on board with the "stop trying to look perfect." Getting the generally right body position is useful, but at some point trying to achieve that extra little bit of perfection is probably taking time and focus away from a lot of other aspects of riding that you're neglecting, and add up to significantly more impact.
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Old 10-05-2011, 10:16 AM   #22
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its like a golf pro keeps saying "turn your shoulders".. there a lot more to it then just looking good!
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I wonder also if you ride with someone faster/advance level, would it make your learn faster? ...instead of riding with people at the same level of group..

I'm assuming that by riding with someone with better skill than you, you'll learn their line and the speed instead of figuring that on your own?
that can benefit a rider that already possesses the skills needed to go faster, but not a rider still in the learning phase. the reason for that is you'll be riding over your head for the most part. you'll spend all your focus keeping up with the rider and you have no room for error or learning. you'll be riding 100% which can be dangerous.

when i'm at a trackday or race practice, i ride 80%. i leave 10% for error, and the other 10% to see where i can improve or how to improve.

racetime i ride 95% and leave 5% on where or how i'm gonna make a pass. there's no room for error for me come racetime.

just think about it in percentages. i never put 100% into the ride. gotta leave some room for thinking "just in case". hope that all made sense.
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I wonder also if you ride with someone faster/advance level, would it make your learn faster? ...instead of riding with people at the same level of group..

I'm assuming that by riding with someone with better skill than you, you'll learn their line and the speed instead of figuring that on your own?
I think you can learn from someone faster, but just SLIGHTLY faster. A Lvl1 guy trying to stay on the back of a white placer is, like Tony has suggested, going to be riding over there head.
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Old 10-05-2011, 10:47 AM   #25
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I think you can learn from someone faster, but just SLIGHTLY faster. A Lvl1 guy trying to stay on the back of a white placer is, like Tony has suggested, going to be riding over there head.
I got some experience with this on saturday. I had a few plated bikes pass me and I'd try to hang for a turn or two until they took off. If nothing else, it was showing me those places where I could obviously carry a lot more speed than I thought, and where their entry and exit points were, but it wouldn't have been a good idea to try to tail them all the way around.

Larry from track junkie got in front of me for a lap and was able to set himself at just a couple notches past the pace I was riding, which was awesome. It was just enough to push me, and he stayed in sight so I could see his lines and whatnot, very cool.
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Ask Doohan about body position.............
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Ask Doohan about body position.............
You sir...are correct.

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Great thread. Thanks to the OP.

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Nice article tony. You should submit it to a magazine editor.
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Glad to read this Tony.... cos my BP steeenks! I'm getting a bit faster each time out, so I figured why screw that up, I'll fix the BP later if necessary.

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