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Old 09-16-2011, 01:53 PM   #1
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Lightbulb 1st bike - need suggestions

I've been thinking lately of getting a bike. I need help since I am ignorant in this field...

Background:
my 'falling off' experiences with bicycles and a singular motocycle before the age of 14 have caused me to not want to get one one for ... well the last 20 years. Don't know what snapped in me, but I'm considering getting one to ride to and from work.

Currently:
For the last few years I have been driving a 30/33mpg car. work for me is about 35 minutes each direction going about 60mph. No traffic on my drive. I usually travel during daylight hours. I don't think I would care to use this as a recreational weekend bike. Also, I do not hit a freeway.

What I want it for:
I would like one that gets great gas mileage (it will need to be much better than my car's mpg for me to consider it), but also something that doesn't look foolish. (Personally the dirt bike look isn't what i want, but i won't take it off the table.) On the other hand, Hot Pink or a busted chassis is off the table.

Cost:
The bike would be a secondary vehicle, so keeping costs down would be ideal. I would say less than 2k, but in truth under 5k is good. (don't need a new first time bike or anything too over the top)

Lastly:
Of course I would need to get a class m license and stuff.


So...
Help me out and give me some good suggestions.

:-)

Thanks all!

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Old 09-16-2011, 01:55 PM   #2
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I've been thinking lately of getting a bike. I need help since I am ignorant in this field...

Background:
my 'falling off' experiences with bicycles and a singular motocycle before the age of 14 have caused me to not want to get one one for ... well the last 20 years. Don't know what snapped in me, but I'm considering getting one to ride to and from work.

Currently:
For the last few years I have been driving a 30/33mpg car. work for me is about 35 minutes each direction going about 60mph. No traffic on my drive. I usually travel during daylight hours. I don't think I would care to use this as a recreational weekend bike. Also, I do not hit a freeway.

What I want it for:
I would like one that gets great gas mileage (it will need to be much better than my car's mpg for me to consider it), but also something that doesn't look foolish. (Personally the dirt bike look isn't what i want, but i won't take it off the table.) Hot Pink or a busted chassis on the other hand is off the table.

Cost:
The bike would be a secondary vehicle, so keeping costs down would be ideal. I would say less than 2k, but in truth under 5k if good. (don't need a new first time bike or anything too over the top)

Lastly:
Of course I would need to get a class m license and stuff.


So...
Help me out and give me some good suggestions.

:-)

Thanks all!

Michael
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Old 09-16-2011, 01:56 PM   #3
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I thought about using economy as an excuse, but it will not get you very far -- at least in my case.

My Scion tC gets great gas-mileage and the bike isn't that much better. Also, the insurance on my bike is ~$1600/yr., for full-coverage.
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Old 09-16-2011, 01:59 PM   #4
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I thought about using economy as an excuse, but it will not get you very far -- at least in my case.

My Scion tC gets great gas-mileage and the bike isn't that much better. Also, the insurance on my bike is ~$1600/yr., for full-coverage.
i'm currently in the late scion xb model, i think the TC is +1mpg from what i get.


someone mentioned a dual sport or supermoto? 80 / 100 mpg??

ps - i figured i would come post on Chris's board before i stopped by any physical stores or craigslist ads.

PPS - that insurance is horrendous! my car is about 40 a month. (liability)

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Old 09-16-2011, 02:03 PM   #5
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Old 09-16-2011, 02:05 PM   #6
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take msf basic riding course.

my 08 ninja 250 gets ~50mpg on regular unleaded, top speed about 100mph, basic liability insurance is $78/YEAR. thats right, not a month, but a year. i think the new ninjas look pretty sharp, but fairings make it a pain in the to do work on the bike.

maybe someone can recommend a similar naked bike or a more fuel efficient scooter that can cruise at 60mph.

EDIT: that honda pcx looks pretty nifty. same with the yamaha xt250 dual sport.

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Old 09-16-2011, 02:12 PM   #7
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take msf basic riding course.

my 08 ninja 250 gets ~50mpg on regular unleaded, top speed about 100mph, basic liability insurance is $78/YEAR. thats right, not a month, but a year. i think the new ninjas look pretty sharp, but fairings make it a pain in the to do work on the bike.

maybe someone can recommend a similar naked bike or a more fuel efficient scooter that can cruise at 60mph.

EDIT: that honda pcx looks pretty nifty. same with the yamaha xt250 dual sport.
also, i don't want to look like a college girl going to school on a moped. that PCX and such are off the list. (wife looked into those a while back -- and you have to change the oil quite regularly... is that the same for bikes? like every 300 miles)

i really like the look of that Hyosung GTR250R... but 30HP... isn't that like lawnmower speed??

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Oil changes? I believe the initial oil-change is ~600 miles. After that, ~5k miles/oil-change -- easy. Depending on the type of oil you use, I guess...
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my prelude got 29mpg, my 600rr got 25 lol

my 500r gets 44mpg on avg, and can get 55+ if I baby it...
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Old 09-16-2011, 02:22 PM   #10
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Oil changes? I believe the initial oil-change is ~600 miles. After that, ~5k miles/oil-change -- easy. Depending on the type of oil you use, I guess...
we were told by the moped dealer that it was every 300 miles you needed to mix/add oil. then maybe 600 after the first one or two changes. it was one of the 'no way' factors for us at the time. (two years ago for a vespa)
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additional disclaimer: i'm not a bike expert, i just started riding a year ago myself

30hp from a 250 isnt bad. thast still over 100hp/liter and is quicker than my 19mpg 4x4 tacoma :p. i think the new ninja 250s also make around 30hp.

i change my oil every 3k miles, because i dont drive in ideal driving conditions (lots of stop and go traffic and dust). just look up a bike's user manual and look for recommended maintenance before buying. like wwfii said, there's typically a short service interval for 1st oil change (and break in period) then the service interval becomes more reasonable.

what i posted above was just my suggestion. take an msf basic riders course and get a feel for the bikes they have at class. a 30hp 250 is also more forgiving than a 100+ hp 600cc bike. i personally think riding my ninja 250r is more enjoyable than riding my cbr600rr as a daily to-and-from work bike. it doesnt make as much heat, it is more comfortable, it is easier to handle and i dont have to worry as much about it getting stolen when i go somewhere. also my cbr gets ~30mpg on premium and full coverage insurance costs about 12x more than my liability coverage on my ninja 250

new bike rider mantra: its your first bike, not your last.

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I have Markel motorcycle insurance. full coverage is just under 1000 with 250 deductible. check with your insurance provider first, some bikes they don't insure or you'll pay through the roof. Markel does not insure full on sportbikes. cbr, zx, gxsr, they do cover z1000, fz1, triumph speed or street triple are good all around bike. bandit are great as well.
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Old 09-16-2011, 06:21 PM   #17
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I have an SV650 that gets about 55 MPG. I also have a Scion xB (late model).

My bike insurance is through progressive at $150/year for liability + medical, because I do not have health insurance.

My bike is an '03 that I bought in '08 for $2300. I commute downtown (HOV all the way) about 35 miles and get there and back three times before putting $15 in the tank (about 200 miles).

What could be better? A 650 is fun to ride and has plenty of power. Since you're already talking about being responsible I don't see why you wouldn't be able to control your throttle hand - even so, it's very forgiving.

Also, SV650's are naked, so even if you do drop it or go down, the damage can be minimal. My particular bike has been wrecked four times that I know of and still runs like a champ! It starts the first time - every time.
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Nothing that has not already been said...Get a08+ Ninja 250...

While I was looking for mine, I saw so many at such attractive prices, I almost bought one for track and then was gonna get a real bike for street...

Good luck and hope you find one that suits you.
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Old 09-16-2011, 06:43 PM   #19
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SV650, SV650s
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depending if you want fairing or not

i wouldnt go for anything smaller then this... 250 may be fun on track or when you revving outter them, but i wouldnt take one for commuting
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o.. just forgot... KLR650 if you want some dual sport look: cheap, good riding position (not my personal cup of tea though)
or if you wanna spend GS650 also nice
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