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Old 10-31-2006, 03:16 PM   #1
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Another Tire Thread

All this talk about street / track tires
What do you guys run for all out RACE tires?
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Old 10-31-2006, 03:21 PM   #2
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I don't mean to get off topic, but something you posted made me question.......

Arn't all out race tires not DOT approved?
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I don't mean to get off topic, but something you posted made me question.......

Arn't all out race tires not DOT approved?
Nope, can't run slicks in Superstock but you can run DOT race tires.
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Bridgestone BT-002 is the only race tire I have experience with on the track. They worked very well with my riding style though.
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I really really REALLY liked running on the slicks I have with tire warmers but, I'm sure any race tire I.E. (Michelin Power Race) or (C2T) would run as well with warmers.
This was my first time to run with warmers and I LOVED it.
I don't know if it was the tires / warmers or a combo of both.
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There are DOT race tires & slicks. Obviously if your just running trackdays, your open to run either one.

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Right, but the BT002 and Michelin Power Race are DOT correct?
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yes they are DOT race tires. Slicks are usually a more advanced design. Since most developement happens at the racing level, slicks tend to get updated more often.

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Got Pirelli race tires on my bike and they felt great for my slow . My next set will be BT-002's though.
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IMO, for trackday use, the carcass on most slicks are too stiff.
Unless you are really laying down the pace out there, the carcass is not seeing enough cornering input to keep the tire up to temp.
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How 'bout the Power Race or CT2
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While slicks are a more advanced tire. I would have to say for trackdays, the DOT's are the way to go. The tire is more versatile, and more affordable.

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Oh Swift, the pr & ct2 are good tires. Keep in mind the ct2 is a street tire. If your going to run a street tire, i'd suggest the new Qualifiers. Patrick has always taken good care of me on my street tires.

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I'd rather not run street tires on the Honda.
I don't have to replace the tires on the trackbike nearly as much as the street.
I will consider the CT2 for the Triumph

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Anyone try the Shinko ones with the dimples?
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I have HEARD there quality is spotty at best. I emphasize HEARD because I have not ridden on them myself. I was at a trackday & someone down from me was running them. He was not impressed.

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How many of you have run the 002s?
What are the ups and downs on these tires?
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I've run the 002's AND the 090's from Bridgestone. Awesome tires.

We run the GP250 slicks in endurance, and they are absolutely phenominal.

Now, I'm not tied to any brand of tire, I don't get any money break from them (unless it's contingency), so I can run any brand I want. We used to race Michelin when they had the H2, and it was a good tire. Then we switched to the 208 Dunlop, which I thought was an AWESOME tire, until I tried the Bridgestones the next year... OMG. Cost less, performed as well as the Dunlops, and lasted for-freakin'-ever! We ran the entire 8 hour on one set of 090s last year, and this year did it with one set of slicks (and won too!).

I dare say that with warmers, the 090's and 002's are the longest lasting, best traction DOT tire out there. They give excellent traction when cold too!

I've only run the Pirrelli (Super Corsas I think...) on a GSXR 750, and they performed every bit as good as the Bridgestones (predictable, gave good warnings with traction, etc), but don't last at all. I think they are an excellent sprint tire, but could never see endurancing them or running track days with them when the Bridgestones for the same or less money will out last them by a long-shot.

A lot of folks really like their Michelins too, but they have never worked well for me since they changed from the H2. I still like the H2 (we raced it for several years), but they also don't last as long as the 'Stones, and don't give nearly enough warning signs for traction issues- it seems when I tried them that they just "go away" without warning... un-settling feeling.

My basic philosophy on tires is; if they are new(ish), round, and sticky, brand really doesn't matter. It becomes a prefference. But, if you want bang-for-the-buck as well as top of the line performance, you absolutely can not beat the 002 or 090 Bridgestones. IMHO, YMMV, etc, etc. I came this conclusion after trying every major brand over the past 3 years since they pretty much all have made changes to their tire design, including Metzler... don't even go there with me on that tire. Ugh!
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