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Old 08-26-2011, 09:57 AM   #21
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ah, i have an RPS-10 as well, going back to arai after this 1 is worn out, i replace helmets ever 5 yrs, regardless if they've been down or not
Any reason why? I've been considering an arai but not too sure. They feel kinda strange when I try them on. Also considering a GP-Tech or an X-12.
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Old 08-26-2011, 10:10 AM   #23
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Try on an HJC RPS-10. They are not super expensive, and They fit really nice. They are very light weight, and flow very very well. Even in this heat, I still have no problems wearing it.
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Old 08-26-2011, 10:36 AM   #24
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Helmets pass a minimum standard, remember its a gov't test........which lids exceed it or just meet it?
have to agree... don't know much about standards and how they set... is snell also goverment?
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Old 08-26-2011, 10:47 AM   #25
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Although you say you disagree, I cannot say where...I think you are just commenting on my post, and that is great. AGV GP-tech and Shoei X-Spirit II ARE motogp/wsbk helmets. I donīt particulary like Shoei for 22 reasons: Fit and Graphics, however, my comment comes from a documentary from Shoei where they stated the difference between components and structure requiered for a typical track accident as opposed to a road crash... Just my 5cnts...
most racers i see are wearing street lids, RX7RR4's, corsairs, Shoei X11-12s even the AGVs though i'm not up on their line. And i've never heard of a manuf. making race lids vs street lids, they are all one in the same. and tested similarly.

racers slide, street riders impact.

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Any reason why? I've been considering an arai but not too sure. They feel kinda strange when I try them on. Also considering a GP-Tech or an X-12.
only saving graces for the HJC are the lightness and paint job. IMO, i have the ben spies replica. i've had 4 arais' before this HJC and will be going back.

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have to agree... don't know much about standards and how they set... is snell also goverment?
SNELL is independant testing
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Old 08-26-2011, 10:54 AM   #26
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Any reason why? I've been considering an arai but not too sure. They feel kinda strange when I try them on. Also considering a GP-Tech or an X-12.
Ever manufacturer has a different shape some will fit your head better. In my case the suomy fits my head shape best. I highly recommend trying on your helmet before purchase.


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Old 08-26-2011, 10:57 AM   #27
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racers slide, street riders impact.

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Exactly my point, helmets defined as Speed are for racers. There are 2 main differences, the outer shell is made of exotic materials like kevlar and the material of the inner shell is also from a different material. Wish I had the vid, I saw it at a presentation at the opening of a Yamaha dealership...There is a german institute that has lots of studies about this topic and they also agree on this point.
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Old 08-26-2011, 11:41 AM   #28
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SO Im in the market for a good helmet.
Cycle gear has some 707 helmets for around 150$ They are both Dot and snell approved..

I dont want to go cheap and risk my life... However is there anything special about the higher end up helmets such as shoei, arai, etc?
Are 500$ helmets constructed better?? Or am I simply paying for a 'brand name helmet' that does the same as a cheaper helmet. do they prevent brain injuries better than the cheaper helmets under 200$???

Please enlighten me!

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I was in the same situation when I bout my 1st lid. I could've gotten a helmet for $100-$200 but decieded to get a $300-$400 lid insted. The only difference from research is, fhe more expensive lids use lighter materials and have amenities such as fog proof windscreen, air vents in the chin and head, flip up sunshades etc.

I have a good head on my shoulders and wanted to keep it that way. I just didn't feel comfortable buying a lid at that price.
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Old 08-26-2011, 11:51 AM   #29
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arai is definitely the way to go. while they are a little on the pricey side, they are well built and well worth the money. if youre gunna bounce your head off the ground i'd do it in one of those because mine sure saved my
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have to agree... don't know much about standards and how they set... is snell also goverment?
Snell Helmet Safety Standards

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Since its founding in 1957, the Snell Memorial Foundation has independently tested manufacturer's helmets. Its first safety standards for protective headgear were issued for auto racing in 1959. Subsequently, other specific helmet standards for motorcycling, equestrian sports, bicycling, rollerblading and skateboarding, snowboarding and skiing, and karting have been issued. These standards address performance, not specific materials or design. Periodically, utilizing specially designed test equipment, the Foundation upgrades its specifications on performance characteristics of helmets to keep pace with advances in materials, helmet technology and design.





Also, I found this on the Snell website:

Finding a good helmet is as easy as remembering the 4 S's: Size, Strap, Straight and Snell.


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Size: Try on several different helmets before you purchase one. The best way to gauge comfort level and fit is through comparison. The helmet should fit comfortably all the way around your head. Additional pads can be used to make it snug.
Strap: Pay attention to the chin strap. Make sure that the chin strap fits around your ear and under your chin snugly and comfortably. The helmet should not shift on your head.
Straight: Know how a helmet should fit. A helmet is meant to be worn low on the forehead, just above your eyebrows. Look into a mirror or have a friend/parent help you determine the proper fit.
Sticker: Look for Snell certification. Snell Standards are the most stringent in the world, exceeding those set by the Consumer Products Safety Commission (CPSC), American Society of Testing Materials (ASTM) and the American National Standards Institute (ANSI). Need to know which helmet is Snell certified? Browse through Snell helmet certification lists.

Technicians at two state-of-the-art laboratories, located in the United States and the United Kingdom, test helmets on two levels. First, helmet samples from manufacturers are tested to see if they meet Snell certification testing requirements. Then, once a helmet passes and receives the Snell certification sticker, it is subjected to random sample testing. These dual-testing procedures are designed to see that the product a consumer buys off the shelf is as protective as the one submitted for initial testing.


Once you've selected a helmet, remember that it must be worn correctly every time you ride a bike. A helmet should be replaced immediately if damaged, and at least every five years based on wear and tear.

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Old 08-26-2011, 01:01 PM   #31
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Dennis Kirk has some Soumy Spec 1R lids and Shoei RF1000 for about $200 right now

https://www.denniskirk.com/50-74.dis.../pricedesc.srt
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Old 08-26-2011, 02:10 PM   #32
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Dennis Kirk has some Soumy Spec 1R lids and Shoei RF1000 for about $200 right now

https://www.denniskirk.com/50-74.dis.../pricedesc.srt
Wow, some sweet deals on there. Nice find
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I may be wrong but I think some of the confusion about "Race" vs "Street" helmets comes from different types of construction and what it means in a crash.
Some helmets have very rigid shells that provide superior protection against certain types of crashes while other helmets have more flexible shells that are better in other types of crashes.
As I recall, the Snell certification is biased towards the more rigid helmets while CE (euro spec) favors "softer" construction.
In any case the main thing is to wear a helemt, 2nd consideration is that it's from a reputable mfr and 3rd is price. That said, don't buy into the idea that you have to spend $700 to get good protection.
That started with an old Bell (I think) advertising campaign that said, "If you have a $5 head wear a $5 helmet". People are still using that idea as a justification for buying $700 helmets.
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Old 08-26-2011, 02:50 PM   #34
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The difference in helmets varies greatly. Unfortunately it is not as simple as finding a price and color that you're happy with. Most manufacturers build towards a certain head shape and that is why what works for one guy doesn't for his buddy.
It's best whenever buying a new helmet to be properly sized, and to have your head shape evaluated. A properly fit $200 helmet is more useful than an improperly sized $800 helmet.
When buying a helmet not only do you need to consider your budget and desired graphics, but also head shape, ventilation, the ability of the liner to be removed, shield clarity/distortion, replacement parts availability and warranty options

It sometimes helps if you equate helmets to the bikes we ride. As helmets go up in price the features become more refined. Just think of it as a difference between a Ninja 250 and a ZX10. Both of these will get you to where you want to go, but each offer much different levels of comfort and performance.

I have personally worn helmets from most manufacturers, and at this time thoroughly enjoy my RPS-10. The helmet is very light, stable at speeds, properly fits my head shape, and fog free using the provided pinlock insert. The air flow is excellent and very controllable with the six way adjustable vents.
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