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Old 08-09-2011, 08:01 AM   #1
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Proposed Law Would Allow Motorcyclists To Run Some Red Lights

GENEVA, Ill. (CBS) —
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If Gov. Pat Quinn goes along, motorcyclists could start treating some red lights the same way as stop signs.

As CBS 2′s Mike Parker reports, motorcyclists and bicyclists in some areas will often pull up to a red light that won’t change to green.

Carey Caldwell, who sells motorcycles and has been riding for some 40 years, said the legislation would allow motorcyclists to treat a red light as a stop sign if it doesn’t change to green in a reasonable amount of time.

“Similar to a right on red. Full stop, take a look, make sure there’s no traffic and proceed safely through it,” Caldwell said.

It’s all because the cycle of stop and go lights at many intersections is regulated by weight sensors beneath the pavement. A full sized vehicle driving over the sensor will set up the next cycle.

A motorcycle is not heavy enough to do that.
Unless there are bigger vehicles at the light, the driver and the big bike are forced to wait and wait.

Supporters said the real issue however, is safety for the motorcyclist. Bikers fear stopping at red lights more than anything else because they know how hard it is, at times, for drivers to see the riders and the situation leaves them vulnerable to rear-end collisions.

“The cars come up behind us, we’re always watching in our mirrors,” Caldwell said. “Two years ago in Lake Zurich … a person was killed on a motorcycle by a lady who rear-ended her at a stop light.”

The victim, Anita Zaffke, was killed as she waited at an intersection. The woman who hit her was distracted, painting her nails as he car slammed into Zaffke.

Zaffke’s son Greg said he agrees with the new law. He said that because intersections are so dangerous for riders, “anything that allows me to get through and not be a sitting duck is beneficial.”

But the proposed legislation has received a cool reception so far from law enforcement.

Elgin Police Chief Jeff Swoboda said he has “serious reservations” about the proposed law.

An Illinois State Police spokesman calls it “problematic” and a Geneva Police Commander is quoted as saying she would be “stunned” if it became law.

Gov. Pat Quinn has said he is reviewing the proposal.

Sensor-operated traffic lights are more common on suburban or rural roads. Traffic lights in the city of Chicago are timed rather than sensor-operated.
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/08/...me-red-lights/




I am definitely for this, happened last night as a matter of fact.
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Old 08-09-2011, 08:04 AM   #2
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I do this all the time.
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I already do it as well, always proceede with caution but I'm not waiting at a light for a cager to cone make the light change.
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yes! I hope this passes. I think we should also have our own lane on all roads too.
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There is a sensor that kills me on Bissonnet and Kirby. I always forget that the left turn signal isn't timed, and end up having to wait a cycle after putting my kickstand down to trigger it.
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yes! I hope this passes. I think we should also have our own lane on all roads too.
You plan on doing a lot of riding in Illinois, do you?
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I know this is not in Texas, but maybe we could adapt the same kind of proposal. I hate getting to a light, thinking it's gonna change, then have to run it. Pita
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I know this is not in Texas, but maybe we could adapt the same kind of proposal. I hate getting to a light, thinking it's gonna change, then have to run it. Pita
Try reporting them to the appropiate state deptartment...there's already code stating each signal should be capable of registering a motorcycle.
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Its not based on vehicle weight!

I usually center over the "sensor" line, tap the starter a couple times, and they usually register.

The lights that I frequent and know won't turn, I just run. These are low traffic intersections and I always treat them like stop signs to make sure I don't get killed. If I see a car behind me I wait until they pull up and trigger the sensor.
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Old 08-09-2011, 09:11 AM   #11
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The sensor line, is that the box that is cut into the concrete?
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Old 08-09-2011, 09:15 AM   #12
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I have actually sat through a light for two cycles waiting to get a green left turn arrow because I saw a "FRIENDSWOOD COP" watching from across the street in a parking lot. I even had a girl on the back. When it didn't turn green on the third cycle (and I knew he was watching) I decided to go anyway. I figured he has to have seen me sitting here for the past 2 cycles - sure enough he pulled me over the minute I took off. We talked a bit and he asked if I knew of any other lights where this happened and I rattled off about 6 others.
Surprise Surprise Surprise - He let me off (not typical for a "FRIENDSWOOD COP"), but I figured he ticket me and it would cost me my first born.
Now - HERE'S THE SOLUTION - On my old bike I got a very powerful rare earth magnet and glued it to the bottom of my bike. It was about 2 inches long and about ¼ square. It WORKS EVERY TIME. These little things are strong enought to create a field that trips the signal. I just bought another one for my new bike. I stuck it to my refirgerator door and you CAN NOT PULL IT OFF. You hafta slide it to the side of the door. I was laughing at my two teenage sons trying to get it off. You can't even get a fingernail under it.
Go to an electronics supply store like EDP (where I get a ton of my ). Only a few bucks for a magnet. Just try taping it to the inside of your plastic on the bottom somplace and you'll see.
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The sensor line, is that the box that is cut into the concrete?
It's just a wire embedded in the pavement
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It's just a wire embedded in the pavement
That wire would be located beneath these lines, that are cut into the concrete.

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Look for "sawcuts" or lines showing where the loop was inserted.





Just found this, answers a lot of my questions lol.

http://www.wikihow.com/Trigger-Green-Traffic-Lights

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That wire would be located beneath these lines, that are cut into the concrete.








Just found this, answers a lot of my questions lol.

http://www.wikihow.com/Trigger-Green-Traffic-Lights
Often the "line" is the wire itself
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It's like making it legal to throw cigarette butts on the ground. Technically it's littering and is ticketable but who gives a .
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i may be mistaken, but IIRC, in texas, you are allowed to proceed through the light in a safe manner if after a 'reasonable time' the light has not changed. the cop may ticket you, but its up to the judge to uphold the citation or throw it out.

same goes for speeding. the posted speed is only a 'suggestion' that requires the judge to uphold or throw out.
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^^^^^^^^^^^
So after a reasonable time we can speed?? ooooooo - I like that!!!!! ha
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So after a reasonable time we can speed?? ooooooo - I like that!!!!! ha
Lol Problem solved
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