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Old 08-02-2011, 02:26 PM   #21
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I know hyper milers in cages do it to extend range. I've never personally seen anyone do it on a bike. I wouldn't for two reasons. It's a safety issue if you want to avoid being rear ended and wear and tear on the starter/battery.
My thoughts exactly. I always check my mirrors when someone is approaching and flash my brakes.
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Old 08-02-2011, 05:35 PM   #22
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I do it almost daily. At one specific long light to help keep me and the bike cooler. Mainly me.

I'll only shut it off if traffic is already stopped behind me and I see the light turn red (so i know I'll be there a full cycle). If I leave it running, it'll surely cause the fan to kick on 1/2 way before the light turns green, and i'll be hot. I feel the heat for the next mile or so. If it's off, the bike never seems to get hot.
Also, I leave the stand up, in gear, switch on, ready to start the engine if needed.

Then again, I'm a noob.
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Old 08-02-2011, 05:46 PM   #23
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i have had to kill the bike in heavy traffic because it was over heating. this reminds me i do not miss living off of kuykendahl and sitting in bumper to bumper all the time. if i wasnt stuck on kuykendahl it would be 1960 or stuebner... right after sitting on 45 idling along. there were times i had to sit on the side of the road for a few minutes so i could make it a little further up the road. something about august and gridlock doesnt set well with the 650
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Old 08-02-2011, 07:37 PM   #24
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I turn my bike off in turns to cool down...

That's what happened in Navasota.
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Old 08-02-2011, 07:39 PM   #25
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I know hyper milers in cages do it to extend range. I've never personally seen anyone do it on a bike. I wouldn't for two reasons. It's a safety issue if you want to avoid being rear ended and wear and tear on the starter/battery.
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Old 08-02-2011, 07:39 PM   #26
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I've been hit from behind at a red light. No fun. The old fart was only doing about 15 but I didn't see him because it was dusk and he didn't have on his lights so I never caught anything in my mirror. Lesson learned the hard pavement way so I'm ALWAYS aware and never shut off the engine. Usually when I stop to get gas, even during that short break, when I re-start, it's always hotter on the gauge for a few minutes than when I pulled up to the pump.
I've got 600s and liter bikes and I've never had one over heat to the point of killing the engine anyway. Has that really ever happened to any of you? Your bike got too hot an died? Provided your bike is in good shape to begin with that is
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Old 08-02-2011, 08:15 PM   #27
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Im not positive about all bikes but I dont think most of them have a shut off feature in case of major overheating? Anybody have input on this?
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Old 08-02-2011, 08:24 PM   #28
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i remember when i used to stall out at lights and try to play it off
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Old 08-02-2011, 08:58 PM   #29
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Shutting off your bike for a minute will not cool it down; instead the opposite will happen. No water being circulated so fans aren't dissapating heat very effeciently.

Just see for your self...shut off the bike when it's at 216F and watch the coolant temp rise and rise. Doesn't matter if the fans are running or not.
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I use to have to shut my bike off. External fuel pump, that would get so hot it would over heat and shut down, 2, big bore kit, over 1400cc on a hayabusa at a stop light in the middle of heat, you can't image how hot, it was like sitting on a fire breathing dragon, it would over heat so fast. You had no choice but shut it off, or it would leave u stranded, it did me once, after that. I learned to shut it off.
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i remember when i used to stall out at lights and try to play it off
Now that's funny!

I stalled last week : (
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Old 08-03-2011, 08:35 PM   #32
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It depends on how hard you've been running and how long the stop will be. When running hard the internal engine temps are way above what the temperature gauge is reading. Then it's best to let it idle and keep the water circulating. If I've been just cruising and/or the light is a long one. Then i will shut it down to keep the overall water temps from rising to the point of kicking the fans on. Mine runs around 175 and the fans don't kick on until it's somewhere close to 225.

Anytime the engine is killed the initial water temp (inside the engine block) will go up. Due to the extreme heat of the combustion chambers and the lack of coolant circulation in the engine. But the fact remains the same. Only a running engine creates heat. So anytime it is shut off. The engine and radiator are cooling down. Even if it is only a few tenths or hundredths of a degree. It's still getting cooler. Until you crank it again.
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Old 08-03-2011, 08:59 PM   #33
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Back in the late 80s in europe where gas is expensive.
and in the 80's cars were carbed, it was common for cars to turn the engine off to save gas at lights. However todays engines are much more efficient with FI and as I understand it there is no significant savings turning off the engine in todays machines , I could be wrong, has anyone been over seas lately to observe.

On the bike I leave it running but I often ride in shorts on the crusier and when that fan kicks on there is some hot air on the legs, turning it off would avoid this.
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Old 08-03-2011, 09:17 PM   #34
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a couple years ago on group rides when the light would turn green we would hit the kill switch on the bike whoever was next to you and then take off now that i think about it i believe i was always the victim
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Shutting off your bike for a minute will not cool it down; instead the opposite will happen. No water being circulated so fans aren't dissapating heat very effeciently.

Just see for your self...shut off the bike when it's at 216F and watch the coolant temp rise and rise. Doesn't matter if the fans are running or not.
the technical term is "heat soak"
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if your issue is the heat just dont stop...
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if your issue is the heat, get the off the motorcycle and get back into the kitchen where you belong....
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i do this to conserve gas when im running low and heading to a gas station haha

Odds are good that you're doing the exact opposite.
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Back in the late 80s in europe where gas is expensive. and in the 80's cars were carbed, it was common for cars to turn the engine off to save gas at lights. However todays engines are much more efficient with FI and as I understand it there is no significant savings turning off the engine in todays machines , I could be wrong, has anyone been over seas lately to observe.
Definitely gas to be saved by turning off the engine instead of sitting and idling. Doesn't matter if carb, FI, diesel, car or bike. Many cars and even a bike or two has this as an automatic on/off feature. Don't forget about the tailpipe emissions saved also.

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Odds are good that you're doing the exact opposite.
I hope you're not a betting man as your odds are wrong. Bike idling uses gas, bike turned off doesn't. It is as simple as that.

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I hope you're not a betting man as your odds are wrong. Bike idling uses gas, bike turned off doesn't. It is as simple as that.

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Bike idling uses gas

Bike restarting uses LOTS of gas


Not much of a betting man, but it has to be a looonnnnggggg light to reap any benefits in economy from shutting it off.
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