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Old 07-29-2011, 12:43 PM   #141
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Yea, that's what you did. So why have I never seen you on rides or at the track? Why won't you help the OP out? It would be so easy for someone with your knowledge and experience to do. Yet all you do is post. hmmm, it's very curious.
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Old 07-29-2011, 12:45 PM   #142
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You should have went back there and taken pictures of the plates, basket and inside of the case. They also should have got your permission to split the case on a BRAND new bike, because if its not covered your looking at several thousands of dollars worth of work YOU will have to eat on a NEW bike. Debris sounds a little fishy. it all sounds a little fishy.
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I do not know, but it is part of the procedures for any warranty claim (dealer calls manufacturer for approval on repairs). I dont want to state the obvious here but something just doesnt add up here..... The OP did mention that Mancuso talked to Yamaha and they said NO, then the OP also stated that he talked directly to Yamaha and they also said NO...... so just by simple logic, why would Yamaha be calling Mancuso if theyalready denied the claim from the start? it just doesnt make sense to me, is there something else the OP forgot to mention here?
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Yea, that's what you did. So why have I never seen you on rides or at the track? Why won't you help the OP out? It would be so easy for someone with your knowledge and experience to do. Yet all you do is post. hmmm, it's very curious.
Dude I ride the track all the time but I like member days and not a bunch of dumb people who suck like yourself...and you have seen me at the track but the beauty is that I know who you are and you dont know who I am. You know I would be inclined to help this gentelman out if he asked me. Do you jerk off to yourself talking on here?
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Old 07-29-2011, 12:53 PM   #147
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Dude I ride the track all the time but I like member days and not a bunch of dumb people who suck like yourself...and you have seen me at the track but the beauty is that I know who you are and you dont know who I am. You know I would be inclined to help this gentelman out if he asked me. Do you jerk off to yourself talking on here?
I like this guy! And who really gives a who rides what, where, when or why. This is motofacebook, not measuring time.

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Old 07-29-2011, 12:56 PM   #148
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I like this guy! And who really gives a who rides what, where, when or why. This is motofacebook, not measuring time.

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As I and others have said earlier, there is something missing in this story.
I used to be a service mgr at a local Yam shop and this story is not the whole deal.

Either Mancuso is not telling him something or he is not telling us something. It feels like the latter is true. They should have explained/showed in detail what they found, what Yamaha said, why his claim was denied and what his options are now. There should be some looking into the statement about R1 clutches not being correctly engineered and whether or not there may be a recall about it.
It might be too early for a recall but if there is an issue with the R1 clutches Yamaha would be negligent in denying warranty claims off hand when they know there could be a problem.
It really isnt the latter. This isn't his first bike and it wasnt abused.

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ya know that might be an interesting approach. call yamaha back and let them know how you are and that you'll never buy another yamaha product and that you'll do your best to let the world know what has happened with their POS product.
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Do you jerk off to yourself talking on here?
No, just when I imagine you. Too bad you've never introduced yourself.
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Old 07-29-2011, 01:20 PM   #153
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Old 07-29-2011, 02:11 PM   #154
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At our shop, we saw 2 brand new R1's come in back to back. Both had failed clutches with under 1k miles on them. One of the two had another immediate clutch failure after replacement.

What we found on a VERY close inspection was that the poor metal Yammi was using in the clutch basket itself was causing the issue. The basket was actually deforming. After being on the phone a while with Yamaha & one of the clutch mfg's, we ended up adding an additional steel & friction to account for the play.
do you have any more info on this, I've been combing the r1 forums since you posted this and can't find anything to support this claim. Just curious to know more about it.
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Title is just because every time I've dealt with them it went bad. Any question you have about the situation I will answer. I know how I've treated the bike, and I know what they have told me. The bike had been there since wednesday, and they had a diagnosis thursday morning. Abd that was that the clutchwent out. They said there was no sign if manufacturer defect and I would have to pay fir it. I said no and immediately called yamaha. They have yet to give me detailed breakdown of it. But they say now that the bottom half of motor had to be pulled to clear debree.
What was their diagnosis?
They gave you no detailed breakdown?
Did you authorize them to dive into the motor if the damage was not covered under warranty?
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It really isnt the latter. This isn't his first bike and it wasnt abused.
What is your involvment in this?
Why are you talking for him?
Why doesn't he explain in more detail what happened.
It sounds like somebody has a hardon for Mancuso and is trying to smear them.

All we know is he bought a bike, the clutch "went out", dealer says he's screwed and Yamaha says they won't warranty it.
We know his engine has been disassembled to clean out debris but we don't know what kind of debris... was it broken clutch plates? broken gears?
He aint telling us except that he is being screwed by Yamaha and/or Mancuso.
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What is your involvment in this?

Just a friend that I have know for a long time.

Why are you talking for him?

I'm not, but am vouching for him on how he has ridden the bike since picking it up.

Why doesn't he explain in more detail what happened.

Probally because he is at work or on the phone dealing with this BS.

It sounds like somebody has a hardon for Mancuso and is trying to smear them.


Ha.... ok sure thing.

All we know is he bought a bike, the clutch "went out", dealer says he's screwed and Yamaha says they won't warranty it.

I will let him fill you in on the new details. I dont want to speak for him about what Yamaha or Mancuso is offering.

We know his engine has been disassembled to clean out debris but we don't know what kind of debris... was it broken clutch plates? broken gears?
He aint telling us except that he is being screwed by Yamaha and/or Mancuso.
He only knows what they have told him so far.


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