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Old 07-28-2011, 09:13 PM   #41
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im kind of curious whats really going on here. i have had clutches go out, but you can still shift the bike, put it in and out of nuetral, run through the gears. if the clutch is gone, the bike just wont go anywhere, no power is transferred from the crank to the wheel... thats not adding up to me.
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Either there is something they aren't telling you or something you aren't telling us.
If the clutch is just worn out then, it will slip but you should be able to shift. Certainly with the engine off it should be able to shift.
Is it a clutch engagement/disengagement issue?
Maybe the clutch will not disengage and so it's like it's locked up or something...
We need more info but I have to say, they should be taking you in the service dept and showing you/telling you what's wrong and a detailed explanation of why you are not covered under warranty.
They need to explain how it's NOT Yamaha's fault, how it IS your fault to show you why Yamaha won't cover it...
It's very odd to have a clutch go bad so fast and they should be more accomodating with giving you info at the very least.
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At our shop, we saw 2 brand new R1's come in back to back. Both had failed clutches with under 1k miles on them. One of the two had another immediate clutch failure after replacement.

What we found on a VERY close inspection was that the poor metal Yammi was using in the clutch basket itself was causing the issue. The basket was actually deforming. After being on the phone a while with Yamaha & one of the clutch mfg's, we ended up adding an additional steel & friction to account for the play.
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At our shop, we saw 2 brand new R1's come in back to back. Both had failed clutches with under 1k miles on them. One of the two had another immediate clutch failure after replacement.

What we found on a VERY close inspection was that the poor metal Yammi was using in the clutch basket itself was causing the issue. The basket was actually deforming. After being on the phone a while with Yamaha & one of the clutch mfg's, we ended up adding an additional steel & friction to account for the play.
There's some good info!
That might work in your favor. Sounds like there might be a recall in the future...
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Do you guys really expect the dealer to eat what is a manufacturer's problem? The warranty is with the manufacturer, not the dealer.
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Not covered

It might be hard to prove that you didn't abuse the clutch
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This warranty does not cover the repair of damage
resulting from abuse or neglect of the
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This warranty does not extend to
parts replaced due to normal wear or routine
maintenance such as drive chains, clutch
plates and facings, oil and lubricants, spark
plugs, batteries, generator brushes, sealed
beams and light bulbs, tires, filters, drive
belts, brake pads and fuses
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im kind of curious whats really going on here. i have had clutches go out, but you can still shift the bike, put it in and out of nuetral, run through the gears. if the clutch is gone, the bike just wont go anywhere, no power is transferred from the crank to the wheel... thats not adding up to me.

also, i beleive for the lemon law, it doesnt even have to be the same problem each time. you can bring it in for repair of X, then Y and then Z and i believe it would still be a lemon. be sure to get a printout of the parts done, work done etc...and keep them filed somewhere safe.
I burnt a set of clutches up at the drag strip once leaving the line. I could shift all the way up and down just didn't go anywhere. Even though the clutches were toast you could adjust it enough to grab and be able to load it in the truck but that's it. If the bike just dosnt shift into gear I would lean more towards a trans issue. Maybe a bent or broke shift fork or something
Do you clutchless shift? If so, how many times have you hung a gear?

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Oh oh, Last weekend I was riding my new FZ6R (less than 500 miles) stopped for gas and after filling the tank I start the bike and the clutch wasn't working, could shift at all.
I thought I was going to use my legs and drag the bike to my house (3 blocks away) but after maybe 5 mins of playing with the clutch it allowed me shift again so I drove it home. Haven't touched the bike since.

, I hope it's not the start of the same issue.
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Do you guys really expect the dealer to eat what is a manufacturer's problem? The warranty is with the manufacturer, not the dealer.
dealers back charge the manufacturer for warranty repairs. the dealer can write up a problem creatively to get something repaired if it was so inclined.
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dealers back charge the manufacturer for warranty repairs. the dealer can write up a problem creatively to get something repaired if it was so inclined.
Yes then when the manufacture rejects the claim the dealer eats the parts/labor.... Not gonna find a dealer who will warranty something like this without authorization, stating that they will be paid. Like you said tho if said dealer wanted they could possibly "FIND" something wrong that would cause the clutch to go out depending on the manufactures inspector that comes out and looks at all of your warranty claims. Not sure how strict yamaha is about their warranty.

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Oh oh, Last weekend I was riding my new FZ6R (less than 500 miles) stopped for gas and after filling the tank I start the bike and the clutch wasn't working, could shift at all.
I thought I was going to use my legs and drag the bike to my house (3 blocks away) but after maybe 5 mins of playing with the clutch it allowed me shift again so I drove it home. Haven't touched the bike since.

, I hope it's not the start of the same issue.

I hope this isn't a trend.
I've only got 800 miles on my new FZ6R. No problems at all.
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Yes then when the manufacture rejects the claim the dealer eats the parts/labor.... Not gonna find a dealer who will warranty something like this without authorization, stating that they will be paid.
no sherlock re-read my post.
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dealers back charge the manufacturer for warranty repairs. the dealer can write up a problem creatively to get something repaired if it was so inclined.
Yes then when the manufacture rejects the claim the dealer eats the parts/labor.... Not gonna find a dealer who will warranty something like this without authorization, stating that they will be paid. Like you said tho if said dealer wanted they could possibly "FIND" something wrong that would cause the clutch to go out depending on the manufactures inspector that comes out and looks at all of your warranty claims. Not sure how strict yamaha is about their warranty. However if there is nothing wrong then it would be dishonest of the dealer to do so.. You would not want the dealer to be dishonest to you about a repair would you?
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Yea, but unfortunately some dealers do have ethics. The OP could also try different dealers as all Yamaha dealers must honor Yamaha's warranty whether the bike was purchased there or not
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Maybe they forgot to put oil in it at make ready? Just kidding.

Sounds like weak metal was used to make the basket, some engineer was trying to save money and look where it got them. Better luck next time bro, you are gonna be fighting this monster for a while.

So how did you break in the bike if you dont mind me asking?
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