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Old 07-17-2011, 02:19 PM   #1
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Shoei Qwest vs. RF-1100 vs. X-Twelve

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In the market for a helmet, and think I want a Shoei. Can someone who has experience with Shoei tell me what I get for the extra money when jumping from a Qwest to an RF-1100 or X-Twelve?

I will skimp on many things, but a helmet is not one of them. I will pay the extra if I'll use what the extra money buys, but I don't want to throw money away just for the sake of having the "best" helmet - whatever that means.

FYI: I exceed 100mph about once a year for six seconds. Otherwise most of my riding is at posted speeds. I commute to work on the bike.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 07-17-2011, 02:23 PM   #2
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yes, you get what you pay for. upper end x-11/x-12's you get a fully removeable liner for washing and lighter weight.
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Shoei's are great and all, honestly...

but have a look at some of what Scorpion has to offer.

exo-500 : $220
integrated sunsheild (shoei doesnt have them)
visor lock system (same function as shoei)
AIR pump. makes for a fit as good as shoei with custom sized pads.

exo-1000's are going for about the same price because they are out of production and can only be found on closeout. exo-1100's will be out in september for around $300 or so. both of these have the same features as the 500, but with a lighter fiberglass kevlar shell.
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but to say something a little more on topic, i will say the qwest is supposed to be quieter than the other two. supposed to be popular with touring people.

personally i think a lot of this stuff is over hyped. i dont mind a small amount of wind noise as long as it isnt an outright whistle. i also coudlnt give a about the weight of a helmet. ive been working in the industry and i doubt most people could tell the difference in a blind test between a polycarb shell and anything else. one exeption is carbon fiber shells, but slightly noticable difference isnt worth another $200-$300 to me, especially not on something you replace every five years.
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Shoei's are great and all, honestly...

but have a look at some of what Scorpion has to offer.

exo-500 : $220
integrated sunsheild (shoei doesnt have them)
visor lock system (same function as shoei)
AIR pump. makes for a fit as good as shoei with custom sized pads.

exo-1000's are going for about the same price because they are out of production and can only be found on closeout. exo-1100's will be out in september for around $300 or so. both of these have the same features as the 500, but with a lighter fiberglass kevlar shell.
Scorpion also has anti-fog shields
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I've got an RF-1100 and a QWEST. The QWEST is the louder of the two. Both feel nice though. I had a scorpion exo-1000 before this and it was a lot heavier than the Shoei but I really miss that anti fog shield and little pop down visor.
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Old 07-18-2011, 09:19 AM   #7
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I have the Shoei X-12 and bought it online after test fitting several at a shop. It is quiet, has good ventilation, very slick looking in white, and the snap off face shield is great. Cleaning it is easy since the liner easily removes. I wish it had a sun-visor, but I may add a liner type visor. X-12 cost is high though. I think the X-11 is a bargain and almost as good. Since I am new back into riding this year, I have no comparisons. Full face helmets have really improved since I had a Bell Star back in 1970.
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Old 07-21-2011, 09:57 AM   #8
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I've got a qwest. My bike isn't very loud, and I can hear it at freeway speeds with the qwest. I couldn't with my last helmet. It also has good ventilation and is really comfortable.
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The Qwest has a lot of drag since it's a touring helmet. I have one, but prefer my RF-1000 because it's so much more aerodynamic.
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Old 07-22-2011, 08:18 AM   #11
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I donīt know if the 3 of them have the same internal shape. If not, you should only stick to the one that fits right. Secondly, I ran this test for you at the UK goverment site that tests helmets: http://sharp.direct.gov.uk

COMPARING THE FOLLOWING: SHOEI XR-1100, SHOEI X SPIRIT II, SHOEI QWEST

SHOEI XR-1100



Make
Shoei
Model
XR-1100
Type
Full face
Test Date
25/09/2009
Price
379.00
Sizes
XS, S, M, L, XL, XXL
Weight
1.50kg
Retention
Double D ring
Construction Materials
Fibreglass
Other Standards
UN ECE REG 22.05

Features
Anti fog visor
Anti scratch visor
Double D ring retention system
Multipoint Ventilation
Quick release visor mechanism
Removable cheek pads
Removable Liner
Multiple shells
NB Details provided by the manufacturer

SHOEI X SPIRIT II



Make
Shoei
Model
X Spirit II
Type
Full face
Test Date
25/02/2010
Price
480.00
Sizes
XS, S, M, L, XL, XXL
Weight
1.50kg
Retention
Double D ring
Construction Materials
Composite Fibre
Other Standards
UN ECE REG 22.05

Features
Anti fog visor
Anti scratch visor
Double D ring retention system
Multipoint Ventilation
Quick release visor mechanism
Removable cheek pads
Removable Liner
Multiple shells
NB Details provided by the manufacturer

SHOEI QWEST



Make
Shoei
Model
Qwest
Type
Full face
Test Date
19/10/10
Price
259.00
Sizes
XS, S, M, L, XL, XXL
Weight
1.40kg
Retention
Double D ring
Construction Materials
Fibreglass
Other Standards
UN ECE REG 22.05

Features
Anti fog visor
Anti scratch visor
Double D ring retention system
Multipoint Ventilation
Quick release visor mechanism
Removable cheek pads
Removable Liner
Multiple shells
NB Details provided by the manufacturer
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I would say that safety wise, they all meet the same standards. So if you are choosing solely based on Safety, you are good with either choice.

The difference is mostly the design of the helmet, the inner lining (removable vs. not removable); ventilation (which equals loud levels), etc.

The X-12 is the top of the line for shoei, it is their racing helmet. It is pretty well vented, it also fits more tighter than the other two versions, has a removable lining and, did I mentioned it is pretty well vented? That is very important for Houston's 100 degree season. the downside it that it is also rather loud, which can be fixed with ear plugs.

All your choices are very good options, IMO.
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I would say that safety wise, they all meet the same standards. So if you are choosing solely based on Safety, you are good with either choice.

The difference is mostly the design of the helmet, the inner lining (removable vs. not removable); ventilation (which equals loud levels), etc.

The X-12 is the top of the line for shoei, it is their racing helmet. It is pretty well vented, it also fits more tighter than the other two versions, has a removable lining and, did I mentioned it is pretty well vented? That is very important for Houston's 100 degree season. the downside it that it is also rather loud, which can be fixed with ear plugs.

All your choices are very good options, IMO.
Good info. I've been looking at the X-12 and I was wondering how it was on the noise level. Thanks for the heads up.
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Thanks for all the feedback and input, y'all. Picked up an X-Twelve yesterday, and the fit/weight are perfect. I decided on the greater ventilation since I wear earplugs and don't much care about any added noise over the RF-series.

It's a sharp-lookin' getup, too.

Gotta say Tony at the southwest Cycle Gear took great care of me. I went in there three times trying on this and that and this and that. He is a no bs guy. I know a lot of Cycle Gear's corporate decisions annoy the out of everyone, but good people are good people, no matter what their CEO does.
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Thanks for all the feedback and input, y'all. Picked up an X-Twelve yesterday, and the fit/weight are perfect. I decided on the greater ventilation since I wear earplugs and don't much care about any added noise over the RF-series.

It's a sharp-lookin' getup, too.

Gotta say Tony at the southwest Cycle Gear took great care of me. I went in there three times trying on this and that and this and that. He is a no bs guy. I know a lot of Cycle Gear's corporate decisions annoy the out of everyone, but good people are good people, no matter what their CEO does.
Congrats on the new lid. I've never had any issues with Cycle Gear. If I need something they don't have in the store, they order it for me. The only thing I've wanted that they couldn't get was a pair of Ride Smart Taichi gloves. Apparently, there are only two authorized dealers in Texas, and Cycle Gear isn't one of them.
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Thanks for all the feedback and input, y'all. Picked up an X-Twelve yesterday, and the fit/weight are perfect. I decided on the greater ventilation since I wear earplugs and don't much care about any added noise over the RF-series.
It's a sharp-lookin' getup, too.
Gotta say Tony at the southwest Cycle Gear took great care of me. I went in there three times trying on this and that and this and that. He is a no bs guy. I know a lot of Cycle Gear's corporate decisions annoy the out of everyone, but good people are good people, no matter what their CEO does.

Congrats on purchasing a new LID.

Tony is the Mexican guy with the red SRT4 right?? Him and the white guy helped me out as well, I forgot the others guys name. They recently helped me return a pair of defective A* gloves, for some better fitting ones. Thanks again.
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