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Old 07-12-2011, 08:26 PM   #1
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Ok I just started riding back in October but I started out on a 03 SV650s Half Fairing model with a salvage title. I really like it but I just purchased an 06 Full Fairing model. I am thinking about attending some track days or taking one of the track classes to get some good quality pointers and get to be a better rider. Is it a good idea to use the 03 as a track bike that I can thrash and learn on so I can really get better and not worry about the effects the track might have on my newer "daily ride".

Or is it better to just sell the older bike and take my chances on the newer one?
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Old 07-12-2011, 08:36 PM   #2
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I'd say mess the '03 up, since it already has a salvage title. On the other hand, if you want to "be a better rider" you should practice on the bike you're going to ride. I'm not sure how similar the two bikes are as far as weight, handling, acceleration, braking, etc. If they're close enough, get track fairings for the '03 and save your '06 for the streets.
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Old 07-12-2011, 08:41 PM   #3
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Well there are some minor differences but they are both Generation 2 SV 650s's So same frame, weight, engine, forks. All of the differences are very minor such as the rotor magnet in the front mounted speedometer. The new bike has been set up for a little more performance than the 03 with a KnN filter, Full yoshi exhaust and Power Commander 3.
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being new, I would not worry about "best performance" between the 2 bikes. YOU have a long way to go before you out ride either bikes capablities
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I wasn't really trying to say anything about the performance. I was just simply pointing out the differences between the two bikes were minimal. I am just looking to get better and thought that maybe a a track class would help me get some of the finer points and build my confidence. I am really just wondering if the differences between the two are enough to hinder my development because I would be taking one over the other to the class.
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Unless you need the money, track out the '03! That way you don't have to worry about ruining your plastics or removing/reattaching your lights every time you ride on the track. It's what I would do. There are several people who have separate track and street bikes.
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I wasn't really trying to say anything about the performance. I was just simply pointing out the differences between the two bikes were minimal. I am just looking to get better and thought that maybe a a track class would help me get some of the finer points and build my confidence. I am really just wondering if the differences between the two are enough to hinder my development because I would be taking one over the other to the class.
neither one of those bikes will hinder development of riding skills. track the salvage bike and when you grow out of it in a few seasons then deal with options.
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What witchdoctor said. It will be awhile before you can out-ride either bike. If the bikes are really that close as far as geometry, the power difference isn't something to focus on right now. As I suggested above, find a track fairing kit for the '03. That will make it even more similar to your '06 in that both will essentially be full-fairing bikes. You'll learn body position, proper lines and throttle control using the '03 for track days, and you can transfer what you learn to riding your '06 on the streets.
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Oh...it might be a good idea to make sure the suspensions on both bikes are set up as identically as possible. Motorcycles Unlimited will tune suspensions pretty cheap, and I haven't heard a complaint from anyone who has used them.
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Sounds good guys! Thanks alot for the advice. I have about 2 months before I will see a bike again so maybe I can flesh out what it will take to set up the bikes that way. I was kind of hoping some of the SV riders were gonna chime in. I will check back later.
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Sounds good guys! Thanks alot for the advice. I have about 2 months before I will see a bike again so maybe I can flesh out what it will take to set up the bikes that way. I was kind of hoping some of the SV riders were gonna chime in. I will check back later.
there are lots of sv riders. I used to have one myself. they will all say the same thing we have said. good luck
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Sounds good guys! Thanks alot for the advice. I have about 2 months before I will see a bike again so maybe I can flesh out what it will take to set up the bikes that way. I was kind of hoping some of the SV riders were gonna chime in. I will check back later.
What the heck am I?!? Chopped liver? Is it because I'm a girl?

Remove the kickstand and all the lights and plastic parts - get a Vapor cluster (or similar), get some rear-sets and a rear seat cowl, adjust your suspension, if you want fairings, find some track fairings. Get you a trailer, leathers, race boots, gauntlet gloves and get your to the track!

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Remove the kickstand and all the lights and plastic parts - get a Vapor cluster (or similar), get some rear-sets and a rear seat cowl, adjust your suspension, if you want fairings, find some track fairings. Get you a trailer, leathers, race boots, gauntlet gloves and get your to the track!

SV650's are excellent track bikes.

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What the heck am I?!? Chopped liver? Is it because I'm a girl?

Remove the kickstand and all the lights and plastic parts - get a Vapor cluster (or similar), get some rear-sets and a rear seat cowl, adjust your suspension, if you want fairings, find some track fairings. Get you a trailer, leathers, race boots, gauntlet gloves and get your to the track!

SV650's are excellent track bikes.
I totally glazed over your post. Sorry about that. Yeah I got a couple months before I can even ride again but I am excited. Thank you for the advice! You have any suggestions of brand of track fairings.
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Would be kinda cool having 2 bikes where parts were interchangeable.
I say track the '03 and street the '06.
Either that or sell the'03 and pimp out the '06.
Tough decision.
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I wouldn't even bother putting "track" fairings on the SV.. whats the point? Especially for a beginner, odds are you'll lay it down at least once.

Get a good set of frame, fork and swingarm sliders, remove the street bits and tape the lights. Do a few track days, THEN worry about suspension upgrades. May want to look at armor style engine covers as well.

But either way, track the 03 and ride the other one.

And don't worry about skills "transfering" between bikes.. skills are skills and it don't matter the bike you're on... unless it's a cruiser or something similar.
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I wasn't really trying to say anything about the performance. I was just simply pointing out the differences between the two bikes were minimal. I am just looking to get better and thought that maybe a a track class would help me get some of the finer points and build my confidence. I am really just wondering if the differences between the two are enough to hinder my development because I would be taking one over the other to the class.
If you want to get better get rid of the street bikes and start riding dirt. Added bonus is you don't have to worry about cagers (only trees)
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If your goal at the track is to consistently lower your lap times, chances are you're going to crash, however, if you can ride fast without hard braking and hard acceleration your odds of not going down improve.
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