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Old 07-12-2011, 09:33 PM   #21
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A properly functioning slipper clutch will, no doubt, be easier on the motor, especially with a serious track day guy or racer behind the bars, and especially in a single. A slipper basically allows the clutch to slip on downshifts until wheel speed and engine speed are more closely matched. Among other things, a slipper will help prevent the motor from over-revving on downshifts and potentially floating valves or straining the rod and crank.
What are you, some sort of engineer or something, mr. smartiepants.
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Old 07-12-2011, 09:36 PM   #22
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Depends on how you ride your tard. If you try to ride it like an I4 supersport, and want to fly into every corner near the limiter it'll save you a few rebuilds. If you let the rpms fall off on corner entry, and use the motor's thump to get off the exit, they're not necessary.
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Old 07-12-2011, 09:45 PM   #23
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Been waiting for a good deal to come along.
things are $1k plus for my bike.
Kinda Leary on buying one used since it's a wear and tear item.
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Old 07-14-2011, 09:33 PM   #24
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I've got one in my YZ450. I put it in because I was used to it in my previous racebikes a 2006 CBR600rr and 2004 cbr. I like it alot. There are generally a couple different brands.... STM, H something and Yoyodyne. I've got a yoyodyne. Its a to get in because the ball bearings keep wanting to get loose in the motor, but I worked out a solution lean the bike over on that side rather than straight up and it keeps the bearings in place during install.

And if you want to give it a shot, come see me at GSS on Sunday.

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feather the clutch when you down shift, don't drop it. Same effect.
obviously u have never used one
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Old 07-18-2011, 01:40 PM   #26
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Are they needed? Seems like that is a major mod done. If my bike dose not have one I may never get one but why the need for one?
They are not a necessary item to have, but it sure is nice when you do. A slipper clutch will help your corner entry and therefore will effect your corner speed & exit. The slipper clutch eliminates the dreaded rear wheel hop/chatter you get from making downshifts too early and dumping the clutch. You will be able to come into the corners deeper and smoother, which will make your corner speed and exit faster. I have spent a lot of time aboard bikes with & without slipper's and my opinion is that they are worth every penny. i hate riding a tard without one now. oh how technology makes us spoiled lil
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Been waiting for a good deal to come along.
things are $1k plus for my bike.
Kinda Leary on buying one used since it's a wear and tear item.
come on... buck up son. you wont be disappointed. buy a new one and be done by the way, you were rollin really good yesterday
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Old 07-18-2011, 05:53 PM   #28
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come on... buck up son. you wont be disappointed. buy a new one and be done by the way, you were rollin really good yesterday
Thanks Jody, Was fun watching you slide that Husky around.
Sorry I didnt get time to come by and say hello.
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They are not a necessary item to have, but it sure is nice when you do. A slipper clutch will help your corner entry and therefore will effect your corner speed & exit. The slipper clutch eliminates the dreaded rear wheel hop/chatter you get from making downshifts too early and dumping the clutch. You will be able to come into the corners deeper and smoother, which will make your corner speed and exit faster. I have spent a lot of time aboard bikes with & without slipper's and my opinion is that they are worth every penny. i hate riding a tard without one now. oh how technology makes us spoiled lil
Agreed.

I don't have one, btw.
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I had one in my WR Tard, and loved it. It was a STM. They run a ball bearing system similar to the Yoyodyne. The Hinson runs a ramp system. The Hinson is VERY easy to install, but I like the way the Ball bearing system works on the track.

BTW, I bought the STM in my Yamaha used. The basket and ball bearings usually are bullet proof if installed properly. I always use OEM clutch plates regardless of what I am installing in regards to the basket itself.
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i never rode a tard but on my old R6 i didnt have one, i just got used to the tire stepping out every now and then when my downshifting was off. id rather the rear wheel break loose than the front

But yea using engine breaking does put additional wear on the engine. If you think about it instead of the stress coming from the engine cylinders the stress is coming through the motor the opposite direction. It will come through the chain (make sure you dont have a loose chain), through the transmission (put stress on the opposite side of the gear teeth) then into the clutch/flywheel and crankshaft.
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Thanks Jody, Was fun watching you slide that Husky around.
Sorry I didnt get time to come by and say hello.
yeah, i wasnt doin very much sliding. i was riding 4yr old michelin slicks mixed with slight carburetion issues. i just wanted to roll and knock the rust off
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Old 07-18-2011, 08:28 PM   #33
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Now I'm thinking I should add one to my SMR when it's finished. it.
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Now I'm thinking I should add one to my SMR when it's finished. it.
bet you wish you'd bought bradley's slipper when you picked up the smr.

of course, you probably didn't realize you'd have the motor apart so soon (or so often).

john's ex-wr450 is the first slipper-equipped bike I've owned, tard or otherwise. I'm digging it so far.
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I rode at GSS on Sunday and I still dont know if I had a slipper. I never had the rear tire chirp on me but I dont think I was going fast enough to get it too.


Is it good to blip on downshifts on the tard?
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I always blip when downshifting, slipper clutch or not. I'm just used to doing over the years of not having one. So it is just habit for me.
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I always blip when downshifting, slipper clutch or not. I'm just used to doing over the years of not having one. So it is just habit for me.
I have a hard time matching engine speed to wheel speed on the tard. I guess its like clutching to much power. The blip is usally too much. I need more ride time on it. Sunday was the first outing on it.
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I have a hard time matching engine speed to wheel speed on the tard. I guess its like clutching to much power. The blip is usally too much. I need more ride time on it. Sunday was the first outing on it.
Yea, it usually does not take a big blip. Just enough to get the crank momentum in the right direction, as you release the clutch.
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just downshift without the clutch u know and keep on rocking ... isnt that what the pros do with slippers

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Now I'm thinking I should add one to my SMR when it's finished. it.
it. 12k tard, 13k tard.........what's the difference?
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