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Old 07-12-2011, 12:08 PM   #1
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Slipper clutch, are they needed?

Are they needed? Seems like that is a major mod done. If my bike dose not have one I may never get one but why the need for one?
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Old 07-12-2011, 12:16 PM   #2
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ride a bike with one, and then one without (assuming you havent already). they are GREATLY appreciated.
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Old 07-12-2011, 12:20 PM   #3
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street/track/racing???

basically for what discipline are you wanting to use it for?
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I've been told it takes some load off the top end when downshifting.
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Old 07-12-2011, 12:43 PM   #6
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Its nice on the track. It leaves you with one less thing to keep your mind on when slowing down for a corner.
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Old 07-12-2011, 12:45 PM   #7
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they basically eliminate the "engine braking" that you know.
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should of testing it on my 450 it has one
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I would say "no", at least not at my level on a motard. You have to constantly make adjustments to them if I was informed correctly, and that turned me off right then.

On street bikes, it's nice. My 2006 ZX10R has a slipper clutch and I have ridden others that have them. It's nice to just be able to drop some gears and not worry about the rear wheel jumping around. I don't see it as a problem on the tards though (from my riding style and level).

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I've never ridden with one, I was curious too. Is it only to help keep the rear from skipping while downshifting? Having my rear chattering doesn't bother me, but I suppose anything that makes it smoother is a plus.
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its night and day to me once i put a slipper on my bikes, and i suck at riding

ive never had to adjust it, you can add remove washers if you want to control the stack height that does some about my pay grade to explain the different it makes.
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I am sorry for the confusion. I posted this in the tard section asking if it was needed on a tard. I can see how it would be highly used on a street bike.

I was asking about use on a motard.

I like not really having one and the idea of not having one. I like to be loose and slidding, kind of like out of control but in control.
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bring your bike by later, i should be home. ride yours then ride the 450, you will feel the difference
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I am sorry for the confusion. I posted this in the tard section asking if it was needed on a tard. I can see how it would be highly used on a street bike.

I was asking about use on a motard.

I like not really having one and the idea of not having one. I like to be loose and slidding, kind of like out of control but in control.
That's what the rear brake is for.

You want to use engine braking to make the rear loose? Better get used to broken motors.
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That's what the rear brake is for.

You want to use engine braking to make the rear loose? Better get used to broken motors.
So a slipper will help save the motor? prolong the life of the motor?

Maybe I should have just texted you.
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bring your bike by later, i should be home. ride yours then ride the 450, you will feel the difference
I dont even know if my bike has one? I guess i could go out and catch a couple of gears and see.
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feather the clutch when you down shift, don't drop it. Same effect.
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So a slipper will help save the motor? prolong the life of the motor?
A properly functioning slipper clutch will, no doubt, be easier on the motor, especially with a serious track day guy or racer behind the bars, and especially in a single. A slipper basically allows the clutch to slip on downshifts until wheel speed and engine speed are more closely matched. Among other things, a slipper will help prevent the motor from over-revving on downshifts and potentially floating valves or straining the rod and crank.
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I've never ridden an SM with a slipper nor am I very good at backing it in, but from what I understand it can also help to make sliding more controlled because it eliminates some of the rider error when modulating the clutch in a slide.
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