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Old 07-08-2011, 05:42 PM   #1
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SV1000... Is it a good track bike option?

I think I have found my trackbike. A 2003 SV1000. I would need to have stiffer springs put in but its ready to go other than that. Do any of you guys have any advice regarding this motorcycle for track use? Suggestions? History? Will it competitively hold up on a larger track such as MSRH or TWS (Texas World Speedway)? I ask because this bike was only made for a short time. Speaking of that... would this make parts scacre? I know it had top end issues but this engone's been redone to alleviate that (Spears pistons, cams, clutch, etc.)
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^this is the crucial question
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Not looking for a "well... its okay for trackdays" sort of answer but I primarily would be using it for trackdays. Racing's still a little ways off for me. More saddletime and theb some saddletime!

I really want solid information about this model of bike. This bike actually is a racebike. It has been piloted by two different CMRA riders.
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Not looking for a "well... its okay for trackdays" sort of answer but I primarily would be using it for trackdays. Racing's still a little ways off for me. More saddletime and theb some saddletime!

I really want solid information about this model of bike. This bike actually is a racebike. It has been piloted by two different CMRA riders.
Then maybe, just maybe you answered your own question...

Listen, it's fine for trackdays. Meaning, that once the suspension has been sorted out and a few engine upgrades are done, you'll be fine. Seat time is crucial. If it's already converted, pick it up, and ride the thing if that's the bike you want. Racing the the SV1k is going to be a PITB bc of deficiencies in the power and the weight categories.

Personally, I would go with a 650 if I were looking to track an SV.

More of the type of answer you were looking for?
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Better yet, whose old race bike was it and what's been dond to it?

The SV1000 is a decent tack day bike. Not at the same level as say a 600 SS bike or even a well built SV650, but still a decent bike.
As was already stated a lot depends on how far from stock the bike is.
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Then maybe, just maybe you answered your own question...

Listen, it's fine for trackdays. Meaning, that once the suspension has been sorted out and a few engine upgrades are done, you'll be fine. Seat time is crucial. If it's already converted, pick it up, and ride the thing if that's the bike you want. Racing the the SV1k is going to be a PITB bc of deficiencies in the power and the weight categories.

Personally, I would go with a 650 if I were looking to track an SV.

More of the type of answer you were looking for?
Did I offend you somehow? You seem annoyed? I sure hope not. I really came for advice and I come in peace... No... I didn't answer my own question. My questions were not exactly answered either. I asked about availability of parts, your experiences (which you have provided and I appreciate), performance on larger tracks, and most of all... general information about this particular motorcycle. There is a wealth of personal information about the SV650 but not as much about this SV1000.

Let me try this by giving little insight more about me as a rider and this bike... I am looking for a bike that I don't care about, crashes well. If not, can it be fixed on the cheap or would I be paying a "hard to get parts" premium? I am looking for solely tracktime with the ultimate goal of racing. This would be the bike that I learn on. A cheap bike that's good to throw away at the track.

Despite many of you guys past advice... I really want to trackout larger displacement bikes. Is this bike so underpowered and heavy that I'll get zipped by the 600's? And please no "its the rider" comments. I KNOW that. I'm a fan of solid low/mid range grunts.

The SV that I am looking at is currently owned by a CMRA racer who purchased this bike from a fellow CMRA racer. It is 100% race-ready and has definitely been raced. The engine has been safety wired and professionaly rebuilt with Spears components (13/1 compression overbore, cable clutch conversion, cams), Vortex clipons and rearsets, Penske double clicker, Racetech forks (these would need to be resprung to my weight), 520 chain conversion, quick throttle, PCIII usb, and much more.

Its been raced but I feel the price reflects upon that but I also believe racers take care of their better. This seems like it could be an outstanding entry level racebike if I wanted it to be but I have no grand illusions of actually sucessfully racing this motorcycle. I want lots of saddletime with not too difficult downtimes. I am very mechanically inclined but i'd rather be riding.

Is this a good bike or is it a PITB (which I assume means pain in the ).
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Then maybe, just maybe you answered your own question...

Listen, it's fine for trackdays. Meaning, that once the suspension has been sorted out and a few engine upgrades are done, you'll be fine. Seat time is crucial. If it's already converted, pick it up, and ride the thing if that's the bike you want. Racing the the SV1k is going to be a PITB bc of deficiencies in the power and the weight categories.

Personally, I would go with a 650 if I were looking to track an SV.

More of the type of answer you were looking for?
Did I offend you somehow? You seem annoyed? I sure hope not. I really came for advice and I come in peace... No... I didn't answer my own question. My questions were not exactly answered either. I asked about availability of parts, your experiences (which you have provided and I appreciate), performance on larger tracks, and most of all... general information about this particular motorcycle. There is a wealth of personal information about the SV650 but not as much about this SV1000.

Let me try this again by giving little insight more about me as a rider and this bike... I am looking for a bike that I don't care about, crashes well. If not, can it be fixed on the cheap or would I be paying a "hard to get parts" premium? I am looking for solely tracktime with the ultimate goal of racing. This would be the bike that I learn on. A cheap bike that's good to throw away at the track.

Despite many of you guys past advice... I really want to trackout larger displacement bikes. Is this bike so underpowered and heavy that I'll get zipped by the 600's? And please no "its the rider" comments. I KNOW that. I'm a fan of solid low/mid range grunts.

The SV that I am looking at is currently owned by a CMRA racer who purchased this bike from a fellow CMRA racer. It is 100% race-ready and has definitely been raced. The engine has been safety wired and professionaly rebuilt with Spears components (13/1 compression overbore, cable clutch conversion, cams), Vortex clipons and rearsets, Penske double clicker, Racetech forks (these would need to be resprung to my weight), 520 chain conversion, quick throttle, PCIII usb, and much more.

Its been raced but I feel the price reflects upon that but I also believe racers take care of their better. This seems like it could be an outstanding entry level racebike if I wanted it to be but I have no grand illusions of actually sucessfully racing this motorcycle. I want lots of saddletime with not too difficult downtimes. I am very mechanically inclined but i'd rather be riding.

Is this a good bike or is it a PITB (which I assume means pain in the ).
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Did I offend you somehow? You seem annoyed? I sure hope not. I really came for advice and I come in peace... No... I didn't answer my own question. My questions were not exactly answered either. I asked about availability of parts, your experiences (which you have provided and I appreciate), performance on larger tracks, and most of all... general information about this particular motorcycle. There is a wealth of personal information about the SV650 but not as much about this SV1000.

Let me try this by giving little insight more about me as a rider and this bike... I am looking for a bike that I don't care about, crashes well. If not, can it be fixed on the cheap or would I be paying a "hard to get parts" premium? I am looking for solely tracktime with the ultimate goal of racing. This would be the bike that I learn on. A cheap bike that's good to throw away at the track.

Despite many of you guys past advice... I really want to trackout larger displacement bikes. Is this bike so underpowered and heavy that I'll get zipped by the 600's? And please no "its the rider" comments. I KNOW that. I'm a fan of solid low/mid range grunts.

The SV that I am looking at is currently owned by a CMRA racer who purchased this bike from a fellow CMRA racer. It is 100% race-ready and has definitely been raced. The engine has been safety wired and professionaly rebuilt with Spears components (13/1 compression overbore, cable clutch conversion, cams), Vortex clipons and rearsets, Penske double clicker, Racetech forks (these would need to be resprung to my weight), 520 chain conversion, quick throttle, PCIII usb, and much more.

Its been raced but I feel the price reflects upon that but I also believe racers take care of their better. This seems like it could be an outstanding entry level racebike if I wanted it to be but I have no grand illusions of actually sucessfully racing this motorcycle. I want lots of saddletime with not too difficult downtimes. I am very mechanically inclined but i'd rather be riding.

Is this a good bike or is it a PITB (which I assume means pain in the ).
Sorry for coming off like an ... back to the topic.

When I was in the market for a 1000 cc twin to track, I was advised to get an older prilla instead (TomLSTD). those can also be picked up for cheap, they make a more power , and already have the suspension goodies from the get go. Parts are out there but really the key thing with all bikes: DON'T CRASH.

I'm with you when it comes to grunt and that's why I love twins. IMO get a 650 instead. Why? BC if you can be faster with less you'll become a much better rider. I used to track the out of my naked sv and passed plenty of "faster" bikers even in A group. It is cliche, but speed is determined by a riders skills not the amount of power the bike has.

What's the asking price of the bike you're looking at?
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Better yet, whose old race bike was it and what's been dond to it?

The SV1000 is a decent tack day bike. Not at the same level as say a 600 SS bike or even a well built SV650, but still a decent bike.
As was already stated a lot depends on how far from stock the bike is.
Sorry for the double post above.

Bike is currently owned by Chris Davis. He had plans to race this but he never did. I do not know who the two CMRA riders are but he does. Should I ask?

Not on the same level as a SS 600... errr... not liking the sound of that too much.
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Sorry for coming off like an ... back to the topic.

When I was in the market for a 1000 cc twin to track, I was advised to get an older prilla instead (TomLSTD). those can also be picked up for cheap, they make a more power , and already have the suspension goodies from the get go. Parts are out there but really the key thing with all bikes: DON'T CRASH.

I'm with you when it comes to grunt and that's why I love twins. IMO get a 650 instead. Why? BC if you can be faster with less you'll become a much better rider. I used to track the out of my naked sv and passed plenty of "faster" bikers even in A group. It is cliche, but speed is determined by a riders skills not the amount of power the bike has.

What's the asking price of the bike you're looking at?
No problem.

I know I know i know You're RIGHT. I just prefer the big boys. I'm stubborn.

He's asking $3,000.
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He's asking $3,000.
If you want to go play then the SV1k isn't going to cut it. You'll probably be faster on a 650. As mentioned, today's 600 SS are going to run circles around you (lower weight, more power).

check out the Prillas and see what you think.
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Sorry for the double post above.

Bike is currently owned by Chris Davis. He had plans to race this but he never did. I do not know who the two CMRA riders are but he does. Should I ask?

Not on the same level as a SS 600... errr... not liking the sound of that too much.
may have to disagree with Pat on this one...Although, I want more power out of my SV 1K, I still would take it over my old (2007) GSXR 600....Now, catching a 750 or 1000 on the straights-good luck...as far as the 600's with Spears cams, pistons, etc...probably exhaust and pc 3 you may be in the 750 range...Spears Enterprises does a LOT of custom SV work...Very reputable..
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BTW, I do post better times on my SV than my GSXR....I enjoyed the SV so much, I sold my GSXR....I enjoy the low end grunt...and yes, I am told all the time, you don't need more HP...just work on your riding. like Big Comfy I have passed many "faster" riders as well as group riders but an all out drag race with a liter or 750, better catch em in the corners!!!
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may have to disagree with Pat on this one...Although, I want more power out of my SV 1K, I still would take it over my old (2007) GSXR 600....Now, catching a 750 or 1000 on the straights-good luck...as far as the 600's with Spears cams, pistons, etc...probably exhaust and pc 3 you may be in the 750 range...Spears Enterprises does a LOT of custom SV work...Very reputable..
M4 full exhaust with jet black coating? (whatever that means). EBC HH pads and galfer lines. BNC filter. Also a raised tank (???). Hotbodies fairings (slightly rashed). It also comes with a spare alas rusted tank. Its ready to go.

My main reason for seeking out the bigger bikes is not to bat out on the straights but more to have room for error in the corners. The low end grunt makes corners more forgiving. I am also Deaf so that parlays into my bike choice somewhat. I feel litre bikes rumble better as opposed to the shrills of the 600s. I am semi-amped about "hearing" a v-twin push the powerband. I also like a little weight on my bikes.

I aim to take a track bike home this weekend one way or another. I am looking at 3 tomorrow.
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It may have been Luke Conlins old SV1000.
Judging from the 13:1 compression and Spears cams it sounds like it.
If so I 'm familiar with the bike as I built it for Luke.
In that configuration it was strong enough to beat his closest rival on an R1 at TWS (Texas World Speedway), of course that was also with Luke in the saddle.

Be aware, at 13:1 compression it will require race fuel in order to live.
See if you can get more details on the bikes past.
There weren't a lot of race SV1000's in the CMRA and even less with built motors. I've had my hand in more than a few of the ones that were.
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My main reason for seeking out the bigger bikes is not to bat out on the straights but more to have room for error in the corners. The low end grunt makes corners more forgiving. I am also Deaf so that parlays into my bike choice somewhat. I feel litre bikes rumble better as opposed to the shrills of the 600s. I am semi-amped about "hearing" a v-twin push the powerband. I also like a little weight on my bikes.

I aim to take a track bike home this weekend one way or another. I am looking at 3 tomorrow.
Go the bigger route bike and it'll take longer to get good in the turns. You'll use the power as a crutch and also fear it. You will learn so much more on a small cc, lightweight bike. A 250 ninja was my best learning tool
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Go the bigger route bike and it'll take longer to get good in the turns. You'll use the power as a crutch and also fear it. You will learn so much more on a small cc, lightweight bike. A 250 ninja was my best learning tool
I am also looking at Pyrobugs's track GSXR-600 tomorrow so I am keeping my options open. Which reminds me... I need to PM him. My phone decided to dump on my life and disappear.

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Thanks for the advice. In the spirit of this thread, let's keep it to gaining an education on this bike model and how I can benefit from riding it.

Patrick,
Using race fuel is fine with me. I've been down that route before. I see him early tomorrow. I will ask as many questions as I can about its history. Why is it important to you? Its been raced so I'm not expecting to pick up a spic and span engine. They get abused and I'm okay with that. The fella seemed to have a lot of knowledge behind its history so I'm sure it'll be a breeze getting it out of him. He mentioned the two racers were friends of his. He's currently in endurance so has dumped the idea of racing the SV1000.
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It's not "important" to me. To put it simply if I know whose bike it was I may be able to give you a better perspective on it as I've built a few of the more competitive SV1000s in the CMRA. No skin off my back, if you don't want my input I won't give it.
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It's not "important" to me. To put it simply if I know whose bike it was I may be able to give you a better perspective on it as I've built a few of the more competitive SV1000s in the CMRA. No skin off my back, if you don't want my input I won't give it.
Nonono... I would love your input. I was simply wondering. I didn't mean important to you per se but why would it be important. Considering the low price, I guess I take it to mean that its history is worth less. In other words, its history is disposable.

Hey, we're talking input from a fella who's built these sort of motors. That's definitely useful to know. I will definitely post up what happens tomorrow for you to critique. Of course, if you're willing...
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