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Old 06-26-2011, 12:42 AM   #1
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OK mostly I just need to vent. Had a white pickup go kamikazi and try to take me out Monday.

Traffic had been just perfect. Everyone was staggered, I'm creeping carefully past everyone without cutting it too close. The "accordion" narrows and I'm boxed in, in the left lane. Three cars up is a big truck in the right lane (lg box truck) and in the left lane is a white pickup staying right beside it - at about 55. The bottleneck is piling up way behind me.

Usually somthing comes along and this type thing resolves itself if you wait it out. After a couple miles I'm finally impatient. I don't care to whiteline, esp near big trucks b/c the draft can suck one under the tires. I check and the shoulder widened out and was free of debris - so I took it. I know, I know; I'm being an asshat - won't deny it.

Right as I'm about to pass the holdup (white pickup) - he dips into the shoulder. I've got less than a foot to go before he would have smashed me right into the concrete wall. He stays one the shoulder, leaving me no room to pass. He inched over for a moment, I dropped a couple gears and scraped past with about a gazillionth of an inch to spare - concrete wall on one side and truck on the other.

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I was busy watching my space, not getting a description of the truck. It had something in the back, and looked like a commercial pickup (squared off bed shape, tall metal bumper, thick lining on sides of bed e.g. built-in toolholder.) I didn't see the driver.



Sympathy is nice but not what I'm looking for. I'm just full of questions. Like, is this common? Will years of riding experience yield stories of people deliberately trying to kill people on bikes? What on earth made this guy do this - I mean, is he just some grumpy old fart with a religious passion for doing the speed limit from 1979 who lashed out thoughtlessly, or a punk who holds up traffic just waiting to p*ss someone off and fire back?

Are there any other "known" cagers notorious for this? (Specific vehicle description etc?)

What is the proper response? Tempting though it was, punching out a mirror would have made me a wall smear. If I'd had a camera going and could have gotten a licence tag # (or a company name, if a commercial truck) could I pursue (ahem, "legal") action for attempted vehicular homicide? What kind of sentence would be appropriate if so?
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I would like to say he probably isnt stupid enough to hurt you, his goal was likely to "scare"

In that situation, I say have with his wife. Its the only way this will be resolved.
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Get used to it. I was chased by a gold Ford Focus on Friday evening because he was in the left lane at the speed limit and I had the audacity to pass him one lane to his right. I didn't flash brights, flip him off, or otherwise act like a jerk; I just passed him- slowly at first, then faster as he accelerated and tried to ram me.

Some guys just take it as a real ego hit if they are passed by another vehicle. It's made worse when that vehicle is a motorcycle; the object that represents everything they wish they were and know they will never be.

Remember: 80% of cagers don't see you, and the other 20% are actively trying to kill you.
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Get used to it. I was chased by a gold Ford Focus on Friday evening because he was in the left lane at the speed limit and I had the audacity to pass him one lane to his right. I didn't flash brights, flip him off, or otherwise act like a jerk; I just passed him- slowly at first, then faster as he accelerated and tried to ram me.

Some guys just take it as a real ego hit if they are passed by another vehicle. It's made worse when that vehicle is a motorcycle; the object that represents everything they wish they were and know they will never be.

Remember: 80% of cagers don't see you, and the other 20% are actively trying to kill you.
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I think the OP just learned a lesson in street survival: If you're ever going to make an asshat move, make it quick. Don't give the cager a chance to get you.
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no sympathy here. basically what it boils down too is everyone is trying to get down the road... you got impatient and pulled a move which 1. you can be ticketed for. 2. could have picked up nails and all kids of other in your tires. 3. once again, contributed to the bad rep of motorcyclists.
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The guy was a , but you shouldn't have made that pass.
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For crying out loud, his daughter is 5.

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no sympathy here. basically what it boils down too is everyone is trying to get down the road... you got impatient and pulled a move which 1. you can be ticketed for. 2. could have picked up nails and all kids of other in your tires. 3. once again, contributed to the bad rep of motorcyclists.
He is right, you took a big risk by pinning yourself between a concrete wall and a truck. What it boils down too is you don't know if he was doing it on purpose or if he was just distracted by a phone call, text message, the chick with big on the street etc. Either way be careful out there.
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no sympathy here. basically what it boils down too is everyone is trying to get down the road... you got impatient and pulled a move which 1. you can be ticketed for. 2. could have picked up nails and all kids of other in your tires. 3. once again, contributed to the bad rep of motorcyclists.
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Never heard of anyone getting sucked under a truck by the "draft."
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i would have done it to. the haters and the cagers.
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Never heard of anyone getting sucked under a truck by the "draft."
me neither. purdy sure in the 10+ years of driving commercially that I would have seen it IF it were to really exist.
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have to agree with some others here, asshat moves on both parts. Doesn't make what he did right, but I just wouldn't put myself in that situation.

Saw something simialr to this a few weeks back, coming up 59 from sugarland the highway splits with 3 lanes going on 59 and 3 exiting the beltway, a cruiser was in the right lane to go to the beltway and would have had to wait for 2 cars to the left of him to pass before he could get over to pass an 18 wheeler. Instead of waiting he drops a gear and goes past on the emergency lane, this is coming up over an overpass, luckily the truck just held its speed and lane, it was just totally unnecessary.
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For crying out loud, his daughter is 5.

What it boils down too is you don't know if he was doing it on purpose or if he was just distracted by a phone call, text message, the chick with big on the street etc. Either way be careful out there.
This could be true even though it was most likely an aggressive move on his part to be a jackass and make a point and ROFL at the daughter being 5 haha

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The guy was a , but you shouldn't have made that pass.
+1 traffic runs slow sometimes, you wouldn't be able to do anything about it in a cage. I get very impatient in the same situations. Just enjoy the ride!

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no sympathy here. basically what it boils down too is everyone is trying to get down the road... you got impatient and pulled a move which 1. you can be ticketed for. 2. could have picked up nails and all kids of other in your tires. 3. once again, contributed to the bad rep of motorcyclists.
Number 3!!!!

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OK mostly I just need to vent. Had a white pickup go kamikazi and try to take me out Monday.

Traffic had been just perfect. Everyone was staggered, I'm creeping carefully past everyone without cutting it too close. The "accordion" narrows and I'm boxed in, in the left lane. Three cars up is a big truck in the right lane (lg box truck) and in the left lane is a white pickup staying right beside it - at about 55. The bottleneck is piling up way behind me.

Usually somthing comes along and this type thing resolves itself if you wait it out. After a couple miles I'm finally impatient. I don't care to whiteline, esp near big trucks b/c the draft can suck one under the tires. I check and the shoulder widened out and was free of debris - so I took it. I know, I know; I'm being an asshat - won't deny it.

Right as I'm about to pass the holdup (white pickup) - he dips into the shoulder. I've got less than a foot to go before he would have smashed me right into the concrete wall. He stays one the shoulder, leaving me no room to pass. He inched over for a moment, I dropped a couple gears and scraped past with about a gazillionth of an inch to spare - concrete wall on one side and truck on the other.

==================

I was busy watching my space, not getting a description of the truck. It had something in the back, and looked like a commercial pickup (squared off bed shape, tall metal bumper, thick lining on sides of bed e.g. built-in toolholder.) I didn't see the driver.



Sympathy is nice but not what I'm looking for. I'm just full of questions. Like, is this common? Will years of riding experience yield stories of people deliberately trying to kill people on bikes? What on earth made this guy do this - I mean, is he just some grumpy old fart with a religious passion for doing the speed limit from 1979 who lashed out thoughtlessly, or a punk who holds up traffic just waiting to p*ss someone off and fire back?

Are there any other "known" cagers notorious for this? (Specific vehicle description etc?)

What is the proper response? Tempting though it was, punching out a mirror would have made me a wall smear. If I'd had a camera going and could have gotten a licence tag # (or a company name, if a commercial truck) could I pursue (ahem, "legal") action for attempted vehicular homicide? What kind of sentence would be appropriate if so?
same thing happened to me a while back. this city is full of envious ppl, that can not take anything if is not for them,

watch out next time
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I think the OP just learned a lesson in street survival: If you're ever going to make an asshat move, make it quick. Don't give the cager a chance to get you.
please explain why it is an asshat move?
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no sympathy here. basically what it boils down too is everyone is trying to get down the road... you got impatient and pulled a move which 1. you can be ticketed for. 2. could have picked up nails and all kids of other in your tires. 3. once again, contributed to the bad rep of motorcyclists.
yeah yeah hipocrit like you never do
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