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Old 06-20-2011, 01:45 PM   #1
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from looking at your rear tire, my advice is to roll on the throttle sooner, and smoother. if your bike does not allow you to do that... i'd either look at getting the suspension adjusted to do so, or adjusting your entry speed and apex point. learn to be smooth with throttle and brakes and you'll find more speed safely.
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area labeled #1... i can see you're coasting right there

#2... you start applying throttle, you could try to apply throttle a bit sooner

#3... wide open throttle

a fast/experienced rider.... i'd probably have a hard time finding any coasting areas on the tires, and the throttle application would be smooth throughout from the edge to the center of the tire. the faster you go, the cleaner your tire will look also. those tire boogers on the sides of your tires is rubber you're picking up off the track, and a bit of your own. when you get rid of the chicken strips and you start getting on the throttle better, you'll push all those rubber boogers off the edge leaving you with a clean tire
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from looking at your rear tire, my advice is to roll on the throttle sooner, and smoother. if your bike does not allow you to do that... i'd either look at getting the suspension adjusted to do so, or adjusting your entry speed and apex point. learn to be smooth with throttle and brakes and you'll find more speed safely.
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area labeled #1... i can see you're coasting right there

#2... you start applying throttle, you could try to apply throttle a bit sooner

#3... wide open throttle

a fast/experienced rider.... i'd probably have a hard time finding any coasting areas on the tires, and the throttle application would be smooth throughout from the edge to the center of the tire. the faster you go, the cleaner your tire will look also. those tire boogers on the sides of your tires is rubber you're picking up off the track, and a bit of your own. when you get rid of the chicken strips and you start getting on the throttle better, you'll push all those rubber boogers off the edge leaving you with a clean tire
Appreciate the input! I figured the difference was just the harder compound in the center of the tire was why it didnt look like the edges. I appreciate all the help I can get!
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Appreciate the input! I figured the difference was just the harder compound in the center of the tire was why it didnt look like the edges. I appreciate all the help I can get!
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Like tony said, another reason is cause your appex is very early which means you will not be in the gas and will be coasting cause you will run wide on the exit, so if you fix your appex you will get in the gas sooner while leaning. You did great though, for not having that many track days in your belt you showed improvement.
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Old 06-20-2011, 02:30 PM   #7
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Thanks Alberto! You were a great help and the video you had is awesome. It helps tremendously actually seeing what I'm doing to help correct mistakes. Hopefully I'll be ready to move up to level B soon.

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you'll be moving up the ranks before you know it! just remember to ride no more than 80% of your abilities, and leave the 20% for error and learning.

it's better to go fast and know how you did it, than to go fast and not be able to do it again.
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Tony has some good advise there for you. Additionally work on matching gears smoother. After listening to you and the engine you do NOT " Blip" the motor as you come into braking zones. There is a small adjustment you may choose to do and I highly recommend, adjust your clutch lever so when you pull back on the lever to downshift you have a very short stroke to disengage the clutch allowing you to match the transmission and tap the motor "Blip" it pretty good. This will set you up for a smoother entry into corners and you will continue to carry more speed.

There is a You Tube vid and audio of Larry Pegram with a camera focused on his left hand. He shows the smoothness and short lever stroke of him working the clutch and tapping the motor when matching gears. Just something to learn from.

BTW this is one of the biggest drills I work the kids over on the mini endurance teams.

Maybe someone on here can find Larry's video and post it for others to view.
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couldn't find larry pegram's vids, but found some jason pridmore ones that are pretty cool also. enjoy!



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Tony has some good advise there for you. Additionally work on matching gears smoother. After listening to you and the engine you do NOT " Blip" the motor as you come into braking zones. There is a small adjustment you may choose to do and I highly recommend, adjust your clutch lever so when you pull back on the lever to downshift you have a very short stroke to disengage the clutch allowing you to match the transmission and tap the motor "Blip" it pretty good. This will set you up for a smoother entry into corners and you will continue to carry more speed.
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I'll be sure to pass this on to Alberto, the instructor...as that was his bike you were listening to. I'm the guy in front on the red jersey. The guy video taping is Alrova here (see post 6).


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more fast riders = more potential racers!!

i don't mind giving advice or helping others, cuz it's funner racing with larger grids.
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area labeled #1... i can see you're coasting right there

#2... you start applying throttle, you could try to apply throttle a bit sooner

#3... wide open throttle

a fast/experienced rider.... i'd probably have a hard time finding any coasting areas on the tires, and the throttle application would be smooth throughout from the edge to the center of the tire. the faster you go, the cleaner your tire will look also. those tire boogers on the sides of your tires is rubber you're picking up off the track, and a bit of your own. when you get rid of the chicken strips and you start getting on the throttle better, you'll push all those rubber boogers off the edge leaving you with a clean tire
Great info, in all the track days I've done over many years, I've never heard that explained this way. Good news is my tires are "clean" compared to years ago. I never even considered asking"Why?" I just assumed better tire technology.

Thanks for posting this, I dun learnt sumthin today.
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Something about hearing metal grinding and having my foot hit the ground spooks a guy...haha.

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you'll be moving up the ranks before you know it! just remember to ride no more than 80% of your abilities, and leave the 20% for error and learning.

it's better to go fast and know how you did it, than to go fast and not be able to do it again.
Great advice from Tony, and what I try to do every time I hit the track.

Also, love the bike. 2009 zx6r FTW!
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