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Old 06-18-2011, 02:14 AM   #1
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Tar Snakes, I know....

I know its been discussed a million times, but when going at a normal pace (65-70) can they affect the tires enough to make you wash out? I ride them all the time but recently I've slowed my pace a ton because of one incident where it felt like my front tire was going to go. Keep in mind that I live in San Marcos, mostly country/ranch roads, so I'm not racing down city streets. Just like to have some fun (no I do not go ridiculously fast) and not worry about them and ruin my ride.

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Edit: was watching a track video and there were tar snakes everywhere and it didn't seem to affect them, got me onto the subject
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Old 06-18-2011, 02:54 AM   #2
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, they are all over msrh! They use to bother me, but i think that it is just more of a distraction...i wasnt sliding on the track because of them, however my first few laps i was a bit worried. they have never actually put me in a bad position, but they can easily freak people out in a corner making the rider think he needs to adjust and may cause a slip...but im sure some road racing expert will argue with that thought.....
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In my experience, tar snakes at the track and on public roads are two completely different animals.

The track snakes usually have mounds of imbedded rubber from race tires. They offer plenty of grip even if they feel a bit off-putting.

Road snakes are not to be trusted. They can be fresh or old. Texas heat can make them very greasy. The crews that put them down give little thought to upsetting bikes at speed so the snakes can be pretty lumpy too.
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In my experience, tar snakes at the track and on public roads are two completely different animals.

The track snakes usually have mounds of imbedded rubber from race tires. They offer plenty of grip even if they feel a bit off-putting.

Road snakes are not to be trusted. They can be fresh or old. Texas heat can make them very greasy. The crews that put them down give little thought to upsetting bikes at speed so the snakes can be pretty lumpy too.
didnt think of it like that...tks
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Old 06-18-2011, 08:50 AM   #5
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In my experience, tar snakes at the track and on public roads are two completely different animals.

The track snakes usually have mounds of imbedded rubber from race tires. They offer plenty of grip even if they feel a bit off-putting.

Road snakes are not to be trusted. They can be fresh or old. Texas heat can make them very greasy. The crews that put them down give little thought to upsetting bikes at speed so the snakes can be pretty lumpy too.
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Old 06-18-2011, 10:17 AM   #6
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Hotter it is, the less I trust them. Agree on the track part - as long as it's dry. Roebling Road in Pooler, GA near Savannah was scary wet from all the tar snakes. Fine when dry. I think they finally resurfaced a few years ago.
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I'm scared of tar snakes
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FWIW, at a semi sane pace, depending on your tires/suspension, the ones on the road will make your scooter wiggle but not wash out. If you are at that level of traction deficit on the street then you are already flirting with disaster.

The bigger problem is how you react when your scooter wiggles.

That is usually the bigger issue.
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Old 06-18-2011, 11:06 PM   #9
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I'm in Buda we should hit some tar snakes up sometime. I went today down 21 in San Marcos and had a little fun on the gsxr750.
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I'm in Buda we should hit some tar snakes up sometime. I went today down 21 in San Marcos and had a little fun on the gsxr750.
man, that sounds like a fun day!!! watch the heat...I'm on my way to Sea World for a few days with the family or I'd be down to meet up with you and go for a ride...
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FWIW, at a semi sane pace, depending on your tires/suspension, the ones on the road will make your scooter wiggle but not wash out. If you are at that level of traction deficit on the street then you are already flirting with disaster.

The bigger problem is how you react when your scooter wiggles.

That is usually the bigger issue.
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So very true. They might make the pucker, but how one reacts to them determines how dangerous they are. I've gotten more wiggles out of the bike over a painted stripe than over those tar snakes.
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Old 06-19-2011, 10:22 PM   #13
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Might want to drop your tire pressure a few pounds for a little added traction if you're bike is getting some wiggle. That's if you already have had your suspension set up.
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Old 06-20-2011, 04:58 AM   #14
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I just ignore them because I know the bike's going to move around
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I'm in Buda we should hit some tar snakes up sometime. I went today down 21 in San Marcos and had a little fun on the gsxr750.

If you wanna ride sometime shoot me a pm! I'm no pro, but I just love to ride at a decent pace
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Different tires react to them better or worse as well.... the Dunlop Q2's I am running now are the first tires I've had that don't wiggle over snakes on a hot day.

Pilot Powers would slip at the thought of tire snakes...
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