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Old 06-14-2011, 10:27 AM   #81
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Why? What business is it of yours what someone else chooses to do?
He pays taxes. Connect the dots
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Old 06-14-2011, 10:28 AM   #82
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If I see a kid crossing the street with oncoming traffic, should I not stop them from getting hit?

Not my problem, huh?
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If I see a kid crossing the street with oncoming traffic, should I not stop them from getting hit?

Not my problem, huh?
And this has exactly what to do with the OP? Nothing?

Legally, it ISN'T your problem. Morally you may feel compelled to do something, but legally you are not.

So, now that we've dealt with your unrelated question, perhaps you could actually answer the one I asked?
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SUMMARY OF THREAD:

- Some idiots try to rationalize why adults shouldn't be allowed to make their own decisions based on the inherent risk involved when it involves motorcycles and helmets, yet at the same time should be allowed to make their own decisions based on the inherent risk involved when it involves eating fried chicken...and will never understand the analogy

- Some level headed people try tirelessly to explain how people riding without a helmet can only hurt themselves, and that there is no reason why a government should intervene and tell them they can't enjoy the wind in their hair if they feel that the risk is worth it.

- Some people have gone full on and stated that they wouldn't care if the government did enact a law because it wouldn't affect them since they always wear a helmet. These people apparently have no friggin clue what liberty actually means, and probably wouldn't understand their hypocrisy when they argue against banning a choice for something they enjoy.
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So do I. Does that mean I can dictate what he must do as well? Does the simple fact I pay taxes magically grant me the right to force others to live a certain way?





Yes, you're on ignore, but that comment was just so abysmally stupid, I had to comment on it.
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If what you're trying to say is that hospitals should be allowed to refuse care if you do not have the ability to pay, i have no problem with that.


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If I see a kid crossing the street with oncoming traffic, should I not stop them from getting hit?

Not my problem, huh?
Nope, but you can make a moral choice in that situation to help out of not.. its your choice.

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Has anyone here given any thought to the first responders (fire dept., paramedics, police) that they have to clean up the mess and sometimes risk their lives by conducting such work in the proximity of traffic?
no one forced them to risk their life, they chose to make that their profession. they assessed the risks and decided that they would deal with them..and what they will be required to clean up.
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So do I. Does that mean I can dictate what he must do as well? Does the simple fact I pay taxes magically grant me the right to force others to live a certain way?





Yes, you're on ignore, but that comment was just so abysmally stupid, I had to comment on it.
I see once again you couldn't connect the dots. Have a happy life enjoying your loud enhancing pipes. You rock
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I see once again you couldn't connect the dots. Have a happy life enjoying your loud enhancing pipes. You rock
And this is what you consider a response?

You made the argument that paying taxes means he can make my life his business, yet when I ask if paying taxes gives me the same right, you simply insult me?

Uh - yeah...whatever man. If that's the best you've got, this really isn't a discussion.
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And this is what you consider a response?

You made the argument that paying taxes means he can make my life his business, yet when I ask if paying taxes gives me the same right, you simply insult me?

Uh - yeah...whatever man. If that's the best you've got, this really isn't a discussion.
Loud Harley pipes = Mensa member. Put me back on ignore, please
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Again, with the insults. Wow...pretty pathetic if that's all you've got.

So basically, you realize you have no argument to make, and you can only resort to name calling and other childish behavior?
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Again, with the insults. Wow...pretty pathetic if that's all you've got.

So basically, you realize you have no argument to make, and you can only resort to name calling and other childish behavior?
If you can't connect the dots between paying taxes and a helmet law, then I can't help you
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If you can't connect the dots between paying taxes and a helmet law, then I can't help you
So again, no actual argument other than implied insults.

Paying taxes does not give one the right to dictate the choices others must make.
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So again, no actual argument other than implied insults.

Paying taxes does not give one the right to dictate the choices others must make.
No, but the tax payer has a say in how his money is spent. Now, do you think any tax dollars could possibly be spent on an idiot that survives a crash without a helmet but is severely injured?
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No, but the tax payer has a say in how his money is spent. Now, do you think any tax dollars could possibly be spent on an idiot that survives a crash without a helmet but is severely injured?
vs those that crash and survive with a helmet but are severely injured....

Seems you need more real data to even begin to make an accurate assessment, but considering one of the aspects to legaly ride w/o a lid is medical coverage...
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