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Old 06-16-2011, 03:50 PM   #441
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He commited the crime he paid the fine
...and precisely what 'law' did he break?
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Old 06-16-2011, 04:06 PM   #442
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...and precisely what 'law' did he break?
From watching the video he had to pay the douce bag fine. Should of been in the bike lane.
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From watching the video he had to pay the douce bag fine. Should of been in the bike lane.
...got a short attention span don't ya?
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...got a short attention span don't ya?
No I can actually sit in front of the tv for hours.....

I watched the whole video and the guy is a dump . He problay got the cops attention by being a dumb . Hope they see the video and get him for running into the back of the police car.

helmet laws are a good thing.
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So bicycles slow traffic up? How about the officer sitting in his car on the side of the road well outside of the bicycle lane? I think the point is being missed here. I guess "Protect and SERVE" has a new meaning, here's your ticket.
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No I can actually sit in front of the tv for hours.....

I watched the whole video and the guy is a dump . He problay got the cops attention by being a dumb . Hope they see the video and get him for running into the back of the police car.

helmet laws are a good thing.
So the comment about getting a ticket, paying for a crime when he committed none... was you just being an idiot or unobservant?
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So the comment about getting a ticket, paying for a crime when he committed none... was you just being an idiot or unobservant?
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You devalue your rights and "Freedom" by using it as an argument against something rediculous like not wearing a helmet. Use "Freedom" and "Liberty" to defend something that's worth fighting against - like warrantless searches.

It reminds me of my neighbor's 9 year old kid. He curses like a sailor and all the mother can say is "He has freedom of speech". Gee lady, that makes a lot of sense.
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You devalue your rights and "Freedom" by using it as an argument against something rediculous like not wearing a helmet. Use "Freedom" and "Liberty" to defend something that's worth fighting against - like warrantless searches.

It reminds me of my neighbor's 9 year old kid. He curses like a sailor and all the mother can say is "He has freedom of speech". Gee lady, that makes a lot of sense.
Sound like she doesn't have an issue with it, but is finding a polite way of telling you that it's none of your business.

as to 'devalue your rights and free', give it a rest. 'Helmet' law is considerably more relevant to the site than warrantless searches and neither effects the other in this forum. To try to claim that a pair of words or their meaning is 'devalued' in/by their usage here is ludicrous.
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Sound like she doesn't have an issue with it, but is finding a polite way of telling you that it's none of your business.

as to 'devalue your rights and free', give it a rest. 'Helmet' law is considerably more relevant to the site than warrantless searches and neither effects the other in this forum. To try to claim that a pair of words or their meaning is 'devalued' in/by their usage here is ludicrous.
That's not the point, it's an example of someone using "freedom" to be an unreasonable moron.

There's a reason why driving is a licensed activity. Your license means that you know and agree to follow the laws. 'Freedom' is irrelevant where those laws are concerned.
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That's not the point, it's an example of someone using "freedom" to be an unreasonable moron.

There's a reason why driving is a licensed activity. Your license means that you know and agree to follow the laws. 'Freedom' is irrelevant where those laws are concerned.
YOUR freedom is irrelevant.
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That's not the point, it's an example of someone using "freedom" to be an unreasonable moron.

There's a reason why driving is a licensed activity. Your license means that you know and agree to follow the laws. 'Freedom' is irrelevant where those laws are concerned.
So another words, if a law was passed that required you to show 'papers' in order to cross a county or state line...it would not impact your 'freedom' or 'liberty'?

Precisely how a person referring to having the ability to choose wether or not to wear a helmet a 'moron' by describing it as a 'freedom'?
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So another words, if a law was passed that required you to show 'papers' in order to cross a county or state line...it would not impact your 'freedom' or 'liberty'?

Precisely how a person referring to having the ability to choose wether or not to wear a helmet a 'moron' by describing it as a 'freedom'?
Yeah, it would. What does that have to do with a helmet law?

A person letting their kid curse out an adult on the basis of 'Freedom of Speech' is a moron. Rejecting a helmet law on the basis of "freedom" or "liberty" devalues the right to claim "freedom" and "liberty" [when you need it]. In other words, pick your battles.
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Shows how little you know of freedom and liberty.
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Shows how little you know of freedom and liberty.
Tell me about freedom and liberty then, oh wise one.

This is a forum where discussion are held. People are going to disagree with you, if you don't like it then don't read it or don't participate. If you're going to participate then post an argument that at least makes you appear to have more than a double-digit IQ.
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Yeah, it would. What does that have to do with a helmet law?
Rejecting a helmet law on the basis of "freedom" or "liberty" devalues the right to claim "freedom" and "liberty" [when you need it]. In other words, pick your battles.
I don't what's scarier... that you actualy typed that, or that you have no clue how stupid it sounds... I can only presume that you are referring to our current texas 'helmet law', which is not the topic.
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I don't what's scarier... that you actualy typed that, or that you have no clue how stupid it sounds... I can only presume that you are referring to our current texas 'helmet law', which is not the topic.
Well if reason sounds stupid to you then that's not my problem. The only argument I hear against a helmet law here is "because I wanna do what I wanna do". After just reading the 'freedom' thread and some of y'alls other threads I think you guys are paranoid.

Listen to me - passing a law that requires helmets will not give the 'big bad government' the precedence to pass laws that will violate your civil rights. I'm sure people thought the same about the seat belt law 20-30 years ago. The sky didn't fall after that was passed and the black helicopters never showed up.

If the gov tries to pass a law requiring GPS on every vehicle then I'd worry and start fighting.
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Well if reason sounds stupid to you then that's not my problem. The only argument I hear against a helmet law here is "because I wanna do what I wanna do". After just reading the 'freedom' thread and some of y'alls other threads I think you guys are paranoid.

Listen to me - passing a law that requires helmets will not give the 'big bad government' the precedence to pass laws that will violate your civil rights. I'm sure people thought the same about the seat belt law 20-30 years ago. The sky didn't fall after that was passed and the black helicopters never showed up.

If the gov tries to pass a law requiring GPS on every vehicle then I'd worry and start fighting.
:-) You've got blackboxes as a requirement for every 4wheel vehicle.
No there were seatbelts, then airbags...an age limit for kids in the front seat.


There is no need for 'precedence'. The whole argument 'for' helmets, can be applied to any aspect in regards to motorcycles. Why do you think that the 'magic line' is helmets?
I currently have a choice on wether or not I want to wear a helmet on a ride. Precisely how is the creation of a law that requires me to wear a helmet NOT an infringement upon my right to chose?
Give it a couple years, some do good weenie finds out leather is better to wear than jeans and a t-shirt. What prevents him from creating a bill? Not a thin.
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