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Old 06-14-2011, 06:56 PM   #321
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Old 06-14-2011, 07:00 PM   #322
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Yah, way i figure it my Hardley is America, and americans have big dicks. So Japs make bikes and have small dicks...math and stuff.

Oh yeah, the VROD isnt a normal Hardly..I dynoed at 121HP at the rear with my mods and 91ftlbs torque. Granted its not as fast as my 160HP Duc...but hey sometimes looking good is better than to walls right?
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Or what about if he didnt wear a helmet he would die instantly. Instead the helmet caused him to live but be paralyzed and need a Lifeflight!!
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Only one i like is Sporty and Vrod...rest arent my style.
I went to Stubbs and test rode a Vrod, meh
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Good argument.

Now I wear my helmet 99% of the time and ride all types of bikes.

WHy is insurance higher on Sportbikes(Who traditionally wear more gear) than Cruisers (Who traditionally dont wear much gear).

The obvious answer is that Sportbikes tempt you to do more risque things and crash, which also is why they wear more helmets. Also, sport bikes dont have much facial protection unless your tucking all the time. So you get shitloads of road debris.

Cruisers usually get big windshields where you could almost ride with no protection, the riders are also riding more conservative.
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Which one? Stock setup sucks. Get it tuned and ergos to match your style and youd be good.
If they would build it right in the first place then I might, yes might buy one
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I feel I should point out that this thread has been a perfect example of how the current "social contract" in America, that forces us to invest in each other's well being, creates conflict between it's participants.

The only moral, just and proper way for men to interact is on a basis of voluntary association. Our current system of taxation and entitlements violates that basis.

America is a great nation because it was founded on the principles of freedom, individual rights and liberty. If we turn our backs on those values we will slide into the misery of collectivism. It will happen. Ultimately, your choice is: embrace freedom or suffer under communism (or fascism).

Freedom is a value in and of itself, it needs no justification. All freedoms are fundamentally the freedom to use your own mind. Any argument against freedom is an argument in favor of the destruction of the power and vitality of the human capacity for knowledge, understanding and reason.
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No, I consider "freedom" to be a poor argument against helmet laws. I said that on page one.

If you want to start another topic about "Freedom" and the government's abuse of power then we can talk about it there.

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Not all Americans are retarded but there are quite a few who give you guys a bad name on a global scale.

I can actually agree with that, being overseas and having someone in italy find out I was at the time a member of the military was a shock to them. Apparently we are supposed to all act like close minded fuckwads.
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LOL, 17 pages...

We all agree that wearing helmets is a good Idea.

..But what blows me away is how people don't understand how enacting a law that forces you to do something that has no direct effect on anyone else is a direct violation of what this country was founded on. Same goes for seatbelt laws.

For every commercial I see that shows a cop writing someone a seatbelt ticket there should be another about how the state has gone too far and they need to mind their own f*cking business.
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All I can say is this thread is people making valid points as to why helmet laws should be enacted, and then a bunch of people saying the exact same as their only argument.

"FREEDOM!"


This thread sounds about as logical as the fox news channel. But but but the guberment cant tell me what to do on public roads... cry cry cry...

Every decision is apparently pushing us closer and closer to socialism!!!! omg!
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LOL, 17 pages...

We all agree that wearing helmets is a good Idea.

..But what blows me away is how people don't understand how enacting a law that forces you to do something that has no direct effect on anyone else is a direct violation of what this country was founded on. Same goes for seatbelt laws.

For every commercial I see that shows a cop writing someone a seatbelt ticket there should be another about how the state has gone too far and they need to mind their own f*cking business.
Where is it written in the Constitution that you have the right to ride without a helmet? Or make stupid decisions? Your right, it says nothing about it.

What it says it that things like helmet laws are to be created and carried out at the state level. Is Rick Perry not conservative enough for you? Is the current state government of Texas not fitting your needs? Vote them out.

Don't sit there trying to give me constitutional interpretations when helmets are a state issue. And it ain't Evil Communist Obama, IT'S STATE LAW! In one of the freest states in the Nation!
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.. Your right, it says nothing about it.
so if it says nothing about it then it must be legal to do. Something is only illegal once a specific law is written about it.
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Don't sit there trying to give me constitutional interpretations when helmets are a state issue.
...and there are these neat documents, like the Texas Constitution.

Now I'd like YOU to point out, where the 'people' do not have the right to make decisions for themselves.
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