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Old 06-14-2011, 05:41 PM   #301
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Already clarified what I meant.

Maybe you can clarify this, how does someone who is a big outlaw and thinks he should have freedom and rights get off on posting "rules" for PP1 parking lot? AND AGREES WITH THE RULES? Telling people how to park, pick up trash, etc, at a parking lot where bikers have been going WAYYY before you even thought about MH? Please explain.

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Private land - we've got to go by their desires.

I'm not a "big outlaw" - never pretended to be.

Do you REALLY not understand the distinction between private and public property? Do you not understand the difference between courteous behavior and law?
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Old 06-14-2011, 05:43 PM   #302
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Private land - we've got to go by their desires.

I'm not a "big outlaw" - never pretended to be.

Do you REALLY not understand the distinction between private and public property?
Funny thing is, that is a private business trying to enforce their rules on a public parking lot.
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Old 06-14-2011, 05:44 PM   #303
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Funny thing is, that is a private business trying to enforce their rules on a public parking lot.
Nope - its private land.

If you actually read everything I wrote though, i simply asked people to be courteous towards others.
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Old 06-14-2011, 05:47 PM   #304
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Nope - its private land.

If you actually read everything I wrote though, i simply asked people to be courteous towards others.
Rules are okay on private land but the public be damned?

Kinda hypocritical, bro. Jus' saying.
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Rules are okay on private land but the public be damned?

Kinda hypocritical, bro. Jus' saying.
No, it isn't. Not in the least.

Respecting the owner's wishes on private property is very very different from being forced to do things in public.

You have the option to choose not to deal with a private individual if you do not like his rules. You do not have the option to not deal with government if you do not agree with the law.

Do you REALLY not understand that?

If I want to walk around my house with my junk hanging out, or bang my wife on the kitchen counter in my house, I'm free to do so.

If, on the other hand, I want to walk down the street with my junk hanging out or bend my wife over the nearest park bench and go at it in broad daylight, then I am in the wrong.

If i want to go to a private race track and run as fast as my bike can go, I'm free to do so, as long as I meet the requirements the track owner has put in place.

If, on the other hand, I want to run down 610 at 100+ in the middle of the day (and yes, the road toad will break 100), then I'm in violation of a large number of laws and directly putting others at severe risk.
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Old 06-14-2011, 05:56 PM   #306
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No, it isn't. Not in the least.

Respecting the owner's wishes on private property is very very different from being forced to do things in public.

You have the option to choose not to deal with a private individual if you do not like his rules. You do not have the option to not deal with government if you do not agree with the law.

Do you REALLY not understand that?
The government is THE PEOPLE.

You do have the option nobody is forcing you to drive or to ride your bike.

I think you agree with me, you've just dug yourself in and now you have nowhere to go. It's cool, dude. I don't have to 'win'. You're entitled to your opinion.
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All of you that can only site safety as the reason the law SELL YOUR BIKE NOW. IT'S NOT SAFE TO RIDE. The statistics show this. You will never understand that you give them an inch and they take a mile. The government plays the "let me just put the head in" game.
If the free thinkers with the common sense don't stand against the gov.s forced protection they will take away all that is seen a hazardous in time. The more you retards ask for their assistance the more you shall get.

Im done with this thread.
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All of what you are describing where YOUR choices. If you would have understoood that you were out of your limits YOU would have slowed down. If YOU had not passed the "slower" rider, you probably would have not been over YOUR head.

Who cares how fast the pace is, YOU are out there on YOUR bike. YOU decide how YOU are gonna ride. I get passed up left and right on novice, I understand I am just not there yet. Perhaps YOU should have done the same.


I don't know what this thread is about, but your comments just sound like you are making so many excuses for your choices and blaming other people. Surely making case for the rest of the people that don't wreck on parade laps to have to be watched like babies, because one person could not regulate themselves accordingly. In a way, it's people like you that eventually bring about this kinda laws to be considered...Interesting.
Don't you realize its always someone else's fault?
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Wearing a helmet, or choosing not to, doesn't directly affect anyone other than the person making the choice; therefore, it has no merit as a law.
Do you think there are an infinite number of Lifeflight Copters? How would you feel if the one your child needed had some dirt bag in it instead because he chose not to wear a helmet?
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brain matter on roadway could cause a car to lose control
I don't think a thimble full on the road is that dangerous
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Do you think there are an infinite number of Lifeflight Copters? How would you feel if the one your child needed had some dirt bag in it instead because he chose not to wear a helmet?
Gee more 'what/if/then' bullcrap. What if it was some schlub that had a heart attack taking it instead... guess we need the gov't to tell us what we can eat and what we can't.
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I think he, and others who support helmet laws, do see the parallel - but not in the way you and I do.

I suspect they see it as government owning the roads and if we want to use them, we play by their rules.

Of course, this ignores the simple fact that government is the servant, not the master, but so be it.
We own the roads, and I know this is crazy, but I think we want speed to be limited. Especially in of all places, school zones
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Did your "Hardley" make it that way?
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Gee more 'what/if/then' bullcrap. What if it was some schlub that had a heart attack taking it instead... guess we need the gov't to tell us what we can eat and what we can't.
Yep, my tax dollars are taking care of too many fat with little or no self control
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I think I've made it pretty clear that I'm taking full responsibility for what happened.
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I think I've made it pretty clear that I'm taking full responsibility for what happened.
I meant people in general, the ones that don't need laws to protect them from themselves
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