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Old 10-07-2006, 10:35 PM   #21
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Still flying? They are still being designed, specked and made.

Jet turbine engines are a type of combustion engine that don't use water for cooling either, and they made huge amounts of power.
+1 , jet turbines produces unimaginable amounts of power :confused2
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Just look at the old flat 4 vw engines. Those things are out there in the millions. Air cooled and run forever.
Cheaper to maintane. These air cooled are not feasible in a hot climate especially in traffic. This is where it will not outperform water cooled.
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These air cooled are not feasible in a hot climate especially in traffic. This is where it will not outperform water cooled.
Once again you are dead wrong. Stop posting stuff that you know nothing about.

Air cooled engines work fine in hot climates.

Have you ever been to Mexico? Do you know how many old style air cooled VW bugs they have running around down there? They produced hundreds of thousands of the original VW bug south of the border that work great in the extremely hot Mexican climate.

Read about the VW bug here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Beetle

Pay particular attention to the part about being mass produced up until 2003.
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+1 , jet turbines produces unimaginable amounts of power :confused2
Not disputing with this because of the turbines producing load of winds directly through it. JET POWERED engines are the only engines that benefited from air cooled by design.
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JET POWERED engines are the only engines that benefited from air cooled by design.
Level 5 <~~~~Get out

You have not made one factual post in this entire thread.
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Once again you are dead wrong. Stop posting stuff that you know nothing about.

Air cooled engines work fine in hot climates.

Have you ever been to Mexico? Do you know how many old style air cooled VW bugs they have running around down there? They produced hundreds of thousands of the original VW bug south of the border that work great in the extremely hot Mexican climate.

Read about the VW bug here:

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Pay particular attention to the part about being mass produced up until 2003.
Agreed with Mexico and the old bugs. Cheaper to maintane is the reason for over populated with older vehicle and no bumper to bumper traffic. This country has the most vehicles accounted for and yet very few bugs on the road, why?
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wow i didn't mean to make a thread so people would argue. sorry folks.
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You have not made one factual post in this entire thread.
Just because you have a old Porsche book doesn't make you the king supreme. I have worked on cars and motorcycle for nearly 2 decades. I have seen many air cooled engines. They do not last as long as water cooled. I didn't want to name Harley because I will know that I will get more people upset because of their mindset. Harley owners think that it is the best machine and no other bike will come close to it. What do you think?
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If air cooling directly at the engine like airplane then it is good. If it hides behind a wall of metal then it is a piece of .
Tell that to a Porsche engineer.

The 911 started production in 1963 and was a rear engine air cooled sports car until 1997. Porsche turbocharged their rear engined 911 for 30 years with no problems.

By the way, rear engines are when the engine sits behind a ton of metal at the very back of the car.
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wow i didn't mean to make a thread so people would argue. sorry folks.
Not arguing. Sharing Opinions, right?
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Not arguing. Sharing Opinions, right?
I have stated all facts out of industry handbooks. They are not opinions. I have given references, go look them up.

Your OPINIONS on the subject are dead wrong.
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I have worked on cars and motorcycle for nearly 2 decades. I have seen many air cooled engines.
Great, your a mechanic, you work on machines.

I am a Mechanical Engineer.

I design stuff like this for a living.
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I have stated all facts out of industry handbooks. They are not opinions. I have given references, go look them up.

Your OPINIONS on the subject are dead wrong.
why are you arguing with him he obviously doesn't know what he's talking about.
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Great, your a mechanic, you work on machines.

I am a Mechanical Engineer.

I design stuff like this for a living.

You design, I get to fix. You don't see the problems, I do.
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why are you arguing with him he obviously doesn't know what he's talking about.
Come on Pan, sharing opinions, mine. If we didn't have anything to say, this would be very boring, agreed?
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If your only mechanical experience with air cooling is a Harley Davidson, then I can see why you think the way you do. Their basic air cooled engine was developed in the 1920s and the rear piston sees temperature 100 degrees hotter then the front. This does not help them with their longevity.

(Puts on flame suit)

Air cooled Harleys have a bad engine design.

But don't think that air cooling is inferior, because it's not. Read the blurb that I posted out of the Bosch manual. If the engine and its air flow duct work are designed properly, then air cooled engines are far superior to water cooled engines.
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If your only mechanical experience with air cooling is a Harley Davidson, then I can see why you think the way you do. Their basic air cooled engine was developed in the 1920s and the rear piston sees temperature 100 degrees hotter then the front. This does not help them with their longevity.

(Puts on flame suit)

Air cooled Harleys have a bad engine design.

But don't think that air cooling is inferior, because it's not. Read the blurb that I posted out of the Bosch manual. If the engine and its air flow duct work are designed properly, then air cooled engines are far superior to water cooled engines.
100% agreed. That is why I did not dispute with airplane engines.
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ditto.. but this is funny watching level5 get burned every post :laughing6
People like to flame me for some reason even if we agreed on the same thing.

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Air cooled Harleys have a bad engine design.

But don't think that air cooling is inferior, because it's not. Read the blurb that I posted out of the Bosch manual. If the engine and its air flow duct work are designed properly, then air cooled engines are far superior to water cooled engines.
Cars lack this air flow in traffic or moving slow rated speed therefore not good in design like in airplanes. Airplane have direct cooling effect which makes it more better in design.
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