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Old 10-06-2006, 10:04 PM   #1
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WOW 110k miles on a bike

thats insane http://houston.craigslist.org/mcy/214998993.html im curious now how many miles can you put on a bike before it craps out on you. even if you keep up with the maintence?
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im prety sure he went throw like 2 engines allready
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Old 10-06-2006, 10:09 PM   #3
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i knew a guy who said that he had a 85 or 86 VFR1000. 200k+ miles and he said it ran great, could be bullshit, but i know for a fact my boss has a valkyrie with 86k and it has no problems at all.

everyone has this misconception that all sportbikes are dead after 30k, i dont know where the that came from. it may be possible most idiots prefer to buy sportbikes over other types, and it would make sense that most idiots bikes arent well maintained, and most of the major maintence would be left to get pawned off on the next owner. i guess alot of stuff coule be due as far as maintenance around 30k.

from what i know about bikes, i would guess they could last a of alot more than 100k, if properly maintained. keep in mind that over time you will have to replace major components here and there, but i cant imagine it just dieing all the sudden for no reason if it is properly maintained.
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I had 136,000 miles on my 00' 929RR with original motor. Honda motors last a very long time.
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any engine that is water cooled will last a long time. When these bikes get up to about 50K miles, head gasket tend to break apart due to high revving and racing but for normal riding, it would last a long time.
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any engine that is water cooled will last a long time. When these bikes get up to about 50K miles, head gasket tend to break apart due to high revving and racing but for normal riding, it would last a long time.
uhmm no.............also air cooled engines last a long time too. this thread has quite a few misconceptions in it.
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uhmm no.............also air cooled engines last a long time too. this thread has quite a few misconceptions in it.
Not as long as water cooled for what I have seen.
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Not as long as water cooled for what I have seen.
Doesn't matter how it is cooled. What matters is oil changes and proper maint.
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Doesn't matter how it is cooled. What matters is oil changes and proper maint.
Without proper maintenance, water cooled is better IMO. With proper maintenance and all, these things will go forever until your money or gas runs out.
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Take a look around, vehicles that is air cooled is turning into water cooled. High horsepower vehicle required water to cool it down fast unless you like riding mopeds. Even Harley is turning to water cooled engine.
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I had 136,000 miles on my 00' 929RR with original motor. Honda motors last a very long time.
hey! whats your name? i knew a guy that had 100k miles on his 929, original motor
im a beliver in honda bikes :icon_bigg iv beaten the out of them over the years and they still keep coming back for more :icon_smil
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Take a look around, vehicles that is air cooled is turning into water cooled. High horsepower vehicle required water to cool it down fast unless you like riding mopeds. Even Harley is turning to water cooled engine.
because of up coming emissions if i'm not mistaken.
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any engine that is water cooled will last a long time. When these bikes get up to about 50K miles, head gasket tend to break apart due to high revving and racing but for normal riding, it would last a long time.
Any piece of machinery that is well designed and properly maintained will last a long time.

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Without proper maintenance, water cooled is better IMO. With proper maintenance and all, these things will go forever until your money or gas runs out.
Incorrect. Without proper maintenance, water cooled engines will corrode from the inside out causing over heating and failure. Air cooled/oil cooled engines lack the extra maintenance that is required on water cooled engines. They do not have radiators, cooling hoses, water pumps, and internal water jackets that can wear out, rust, rot, and break.

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Take a look around, vehicles that is air cooled is turning into water cooled.
There are several reasons why water cooled engines are more prevelant. Water cooled engines are cheaper to manufacture, their emissions control systems are also cheaper and easer to manufacture.

Air cooled engines are easier to maintain but cost more to develope and to produce.

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High horsepower vehicle required water to cool it down fast unless you like riding mopeds.
Incorrect. Higher horsepower cars do not require water cooling. Ask any Porsche mechanic or aircraft mechanic, they will set you strait.

I got this from Bosch Automotive Handbook, 4th edition, page 398

"Direct cooling
Direct air cooling removes hear directly from the components. The underlying principle is based on intensive air flow, usually through a finned surface. Although primarily used in motorcycle and aircraft engines, this form of cooling is also employed for some passenger-car and commercial-vehicle diesel and spark ignition engines. Its main advantage it its high reliability and freedom from maintenance. On the negative side, the design measures required to ensure efficient heat dissipation to the cooling air increase the cost of the components."
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Any piece of machinery that is well designed and properly maintained will last a long time.



Incorrect. Without proper maintenance, water cooled engines will corrode from the inside out causing over heating and failure. Air cooled/oil cooled engines lack the extra maintenance that is required on water cooled engines. They do not have radiators, cooling hoses, water pumps, and internal water jackets that can wear out, rust, rot, and break.



There are several reasons why water cooled engines are more prevelant. Water cooled engines are cheaper to manufacture, their emissions control systems are also cheaper and easer to manufacture.

Air cooled engines are easier to maintain but cost more to develope and to produce.



Incorrect. Higher horsepower cars do not require water cooling. Ask any Porsche mechanic or aircraft mechanic, they will set you strait.

I got this from Bosch Automotive Handbook, 4th edition, page 398

"Direct cooling
Direct air cooling removes hear directly from the components. The underlying principle is based on intensive air flow, usually through a finned surface. Although primarily used in motorcycle and aircraft engines, this form of cooling is also employed for some passenger-car and commercial-vehicle diesel and spark ignition engines. Its main advantage it its high reliability and freedom from maintenance. On the negative side, the design measures required to ensure efficient heat dissipation to the cooling air increase the cost of the components."

son you got served!!! :laughing6

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Just look at the old flat 4 vw engines. Those things are out there in the millions. Air cooled and run forever.
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Just look at the old flat 4 vw engines. Those things are out there in the millions. Air cooled and run forever.
skippy, there are many aircooled aircraft engines out there still flying reliable
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Still flying? They are still being designed, specked and made.

Jet turbine engines are a type of combustion engine that don't use water for cooling either, and they made huge amounts of power.
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Any piece of machinery that is well designed and properly maintained will last a long time.

How do you know which new machine is well designed? The answer to this is only comes with times. Well designed is the key word. Kawasaki, Honda, Suzuki, Yamaha which is better in design?

Incorrect. Without proper maintenance, water cooled engines will corrode from the inside out causing over heating and failure. Air cooled/oil cooled engines lack the extra maintenance that is required on water cooled engines. They do not have radiators, cooling hoses, water pumps, and internal water jackets that can wear out, rust, rot, and break.

Antifreeze that protect corrosion up to 100k miles

There are several reasons why water cooled engines are more prevelant. Water cooled engines are cheaper to manufacture, their emissions control systems are also cheaper and easer to manufacture.


Definitely not cheaper in production.

Air cooled engines are easier to maintain but cost more to develope and to produce.

Air cooled are easier to maintain.

Incorrect. Higher horsepower cars do not require water cooling. Ask any Porsche mechanic or aircraft mechanic, they will set you strait.
Older aircraft are air cooled because of lack of technology. Don't see any more of those do you? Okay, maybe at museum.
This is why all Porsche that is air cooled is antique and outdated. Newer Porsche are much faster and better. Have you see any old porsche outpowered the new one? Why? Better design with water cooled.I got this from Bosch Automotive Handbook, 4th edition, page 398

"Direct cooling
Direct air cooling removes hear directly from the components. The underlying principle is based on intensive air flow, usually through a finned surface. Although primarily used in motorcycle and aircraft engines, this form of cooling is also employed for some passenger-car and commercial-vehicle diesel and spark ignition engines. Its main advantage it its high reliability and freedom from maintenance. On the negative side, the design measures required to ensure efficient heat dissipation to the cooling air increase the cost of the components."
If air cooling directly at the engine like airplane then it is good. If it hides behind a wall of metal then it is a piece of .
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