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Old 06-02-2011, 12:50 PM   #161
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Old 06-02-2011, 01:01 PM   #163
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Ok I'm in for negotiating. Seriously I've got an extra 2K sitting in the bank as play money and would love to ride a BMW. As long as you can give me reasonable answers to these questions, I'd consider it.

1. Who's name is the bike going to be under?
2. Where is the bike going to be stored?
3. Will you have insurance on the bike?
4. What insurance company will it be with?
5. What kind of coverage will it have?
a) Full Coverage, Collision, theft, fire?
6. Will all 10 people be listed and pay premium for each individual?
7. Does that company allow claims for off-road, non-competitive track riding?
8. Who will be the person that fixes mechanical problems on the bike?
9. What if I want MY mechanic to work on the bike before I ride it?
10. What kind of tires will the bike have or will we have 10 different sets of wheels/tires?
11. Will the bike be regular or GP shift?
12. What if someone wants to switch the shift linkage?
13. How will it be handled if someone wants to change the clip-on angle or lever height and resistance?
14. What if someone crashes the bike?
15. Are they responsible to pay for the deductible on the bike or would they have to pay cash to fix it?
16. If they make a claim and our insurance goes up, do I have to pay for the increase because someone else crashed the bike?
17. What happens if they bike is stolen from the primary keeper? Are we all responsible for deductible or the keeper?
18. What if one person decides to quit the team, do we bring on someone else, or split the rising costs ourselves?
19. What if someone crashes the bike and I've already paid for my next TD, do I get reimbursed for that?
20. What if it's John Doe's day to ride the bike, but we trailer it with my trailer, behind your vehicle and it falls, but possibly John Doe didn't tie the bike down right? However my trailer is kind of old and shaky, but you did stop short at the light in your own vehicle? Neither of our car insurances cover the bike, but it wasn't necessarily our faults.

More coming shortly. I don't think these questions are too much to ask for me forking over my $2,000+ to you.

21. What happens when the person who's name the bike is under decides to leave to the team, who's name does it go under then, and who's pays the fees and taxes?
22. What if I don't get a full TD because of rain/etc. Does my scheduled day get rescheduled before anyone else?
23. Do we even get a full day, or do multiple people have to pay for the same TD since TD Orgs usually charge per PERSON not by bike?
24. What if I don't like the color of the bike and I want to bright orange so I can say "LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME!!!!!!"?


I just think there are too many variables that are out of your control.
man seriously, i spend about close to 5 gs just eating out every month, 2gs is nothing for me but still.... sharing a bike with even 3 other people really doesnt make sense specially when i can just go buy me a track bike just for my own use for another extra grand
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Old 06-02-2011, 01:02 PM   #164
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Nope wasn't joking! If it falls over would you prefer I say "ouch"?

I think happens, its our job to try to prevent as much as we can, but if something does happen and we can't prevent it, then its 's will and I'm ok with that.

I would suggest you go for that 11-13% return!

I'll do one better for you, I'll save you a lot of headache and go ahead and reject any hope you have of being a part of this, so that you never ever have to wake up wondering what if!

Shew, you got lucky!!!
I would prefer that you take care of my , or fix it....but so many questions arise about that. Face it, you couldn't in practice control all these situations, or make all the "investors" happy. It's always easy in theory. Thanks for the replies (since we can't actually call them answers), but I agree this wouldn't be a good match since you have no idea how any of this would truly work.

Phew....Thanks, I was extremely worried I wouldn't get to throw away a bunch of cash.

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man seriously, i spend about close to 5 gs just eating out every month, 2gs is nothing for me but still.... sharing a bike with even 3 other people really doesnt make sense specially when i can just go buy me a track bike just for my own use for another extra grand
That's what I'm trying to point out! Why make it complicated?

Thank you Frank.
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man seriously, i spend about close to 5 gs just eating out every month
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Old 06-02-2011, 01:07 PM   #168
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There's no need to with the gearing. Leave the bike stock
only mess with gearing if you are at a pro racer level and have a pit crew with a data analyzer to determine what gearing would be more advantageous for that specific track!
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Old 06-02-2011, 01:10 PM   #169
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Well if they have $2k they can scratch up I hear they serve free lunch for trackday riders.

Then they get to eat 2-3 times a year when it's their turn to ride the bike so that's a major return on that investment.
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Old 06-02-2011, 01:15 PM   #171
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Well if they have $2k they can scratch up I hear they serve free lunch for trackday riders.

Then they get to eat 2-3 times a year when it's their turn to ride the bike so that's a major return on that investment.
True. That's a sweet .9% right there, oh wait I had to use gas to get up to those tracks, so back down to a rough -3%....
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only mess with gearing if you are at a pro racer level and have a pit crew with a data analyzer to determine what gearing would be more advantageous for that specific track!
While I agree that gearing isn't something to mess with right away, it doesn't take much to realize my 600 benefits greatly from a -1/+2 change at MSRH/GSS/ & TWS (Texas World Speedway) at my pace. No pit crew to figure that out. 1st year of riding...probably not, but it didn't take long.
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hahahaha by that time it wouldnt be such a bad idea..... collecting 2000 from 9 riders, it sure beats the retail price or blue book value
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hahahaha by that time it wouldnt be such a bad idea..... collecting 2000 from 9 riders, it sure beats the retail price or blue book value
all these pages and someone JUST now questioned the math.
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Well if they have $2k they can scratch up I hear they serve free lunch for trackday riders.

Then they get to eat 2-3 times a year when it's their turn to ride the bike so that's a major return on that investment.
that meal better be good man
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While I agree that gearing isn't something to mess with right away, it doesn't take much to realize my 600 benefits greatly from a -1/+2 change at MSRH/GSS/ & TWS (Texas World Speedway) at my pace. No pit crew to figure that out. 1st year of riding...probably not, but it didn't take long.
Yeap, for a 600cc there is not much to figure out, you need more torque anywhere period.... i was more talking about literbikes and referring to internal gearing changes not just the front sprockets, just like the way AMA or WSBK people have different internal gear/ratios for different tracks.
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Old 06-02-2011, 01:30 PM   #178
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Ten people could pitch in $100 or so so we can learn how good of a stripper she is.
You can come along too if you want.
Sometimes you might be able to get a special ride too, but we'd all have to vote to see who gets it this time, and pitch in more if we want a better stripper. Sometimes you might have to share though FYI. And if she falls over dead, we just say OOPS and leave.
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While I agree that gearing isn't something to mess with right away, it doesn't take much to realize my 600 benefits greatly from a -1/+2 change at MSRH/GSS/ & TWS (Texas World Speedway) at my pace. No pit crew to figure that out. 1st year of riding...probably not, but it didn't take long.
this ...and yes liter riders do it too.


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Yeap, for a 600cc there is not much to figure out, you need more torque anywhere period.... i was more talking about literbikes and referring to internal gearing changes not just the front sprockets, just like the way AMA or WSBK people have different internal gear/ratios for different tracks.

there was not mention of internal changes..just sprockets among 9 riders is a situation.
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just like the way AMA or WSBK people have different internal gear/ratios for different tracks.
I don't think they do this as much as you think they do.
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