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Old 05-31-2011, 06:59 PM   #1
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Been kicking around the idea of getting a super motard to drive back and fourth from work and to play around on and practice backing it in so I dan start doing it on the race bike. What's a good one to get that has plenty of power? I like to do wheelies as well. DRZ400SM?
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I had a WR250X, Tony, I loved the bike but, I hated the power delivery. The bike topped out somewhere around 90 MPH.

Look for the Aprilia 550, that is the motard I would get.
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Been kicking around the idea of getting a super motard to drive back and fourth from work and to play around on and practice backing it in so I dan start doing it on the race bike. What's a good one to get that has plenty of power? I like to do wheelies as well. DRZ400SM?
Tony ur welcome to test ride my DRZ whenever but it's lacking in the HP department. It's the best tard or commuting because of service intervals and reliability but at the cost of HP. Maybe a KTM 690SMC or husky 510. The SXV Irak is referring to is the Tard of Tards!!! But comes at a price of piston rings replacements as a maintenance interval :eek:

Maybe a well sorted DRZ with and FCR and big bore will suite ur needs
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Tony, I have a 625SMC and its perfect for the job IMO. Power wheelies in 2nd, clutch ups in 3rd. Tops out at 115, but who wants to go that fast on a ferkin dirt bike with big brakes and sticky tyres? It is perfect for urban assault and track days.

The 400SM is slower, but still delivers the same grin factor. I'm sure the Suzuki boys will chime in.

The Aprilia is a beast, but has a bad reputation for reliability.

Do some stalking on supermotojunkie.com. You can find anything you need on that site.

I'll be at GSS this weekend if you want to check it out. I would have let you have a go, but then I remembered your yard sale a few months ago

Oh, and if you work out the backing it in thing............please share
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I had a WR250X, Tony, I loved the bike but, I hated the power delivery. The bike topped out somewhere around 90 MPH.

Look for the Aprilia 550, that is the motard I would get.
Yeah, I know 250 will deffinately be less than I want and the aprilia is more than what I want to spend because more than likely I'll be dropping it quite a bit trying to learn to back it in... Haha
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Tony ur welcome to test ride my DRZ whenever but it's lacking in the HP department. It's the best tard or commuting because of service intervals and reliability but at the cost of HP. Maybe a KTM 690SMC or husky 510. The SXV Irak is referring to is the Tard of Tards!!! But comes at a price of piston rings replacements as a maintenance interval :eek:

Maybe a well sorted DRZ with and FCR and big bore will suite ur needs
It doesn't have to have a ton of power, if it's any where near my crf450r was it would be perfect, that thing wheelied in almost every gear. Not really concerned with a fast top speed I think 90mph would be plenty fast for what I want to do.

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Tony, I have a 625SMC and its perfect for the job IMO. Power wheelies in 2nd, clutch ups in 3rd. Tops out at 115, but who wants to go that fast on a ferkin dirt bike with big brakes and sticky tyres? It is perfect for urban assault and track days.

The 400SM is slower, but still delivers the same grin factor. I'm sure the Suzuki boys will chime in.

The Aprilia is a beast, but has a bad reputation for reliability.

Do some stalking on supermotojunkie.com. You can find anything you need on that site.

I'll be at GSS this weekend if you want to check it out. I would have let you have a go, but then I remembered your yard sale a few months ago

Oh, and if you work out the backing it in thing............please share
Thanks for the site, I'll check it out... And as far as the yard sale, that's my first ever wreck on the track and I've done over 30+ trackdays... Haha. But I never ride anyone's bike because you never know when your going to crash or someone else takes you out.
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Is it common for people to convert dual sport bikes for instance a XR650 into a super moto bike?
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the 400sm won't have the same power as the 450. stock my 400 seemed to lack quite a bit. Opening the airbox (3x3 mod) did a lot. Later, I installed the FCR and also felt the improvement....but it still isn't as snappy as a 450 (at least with my current gearing that will bring me to around 100). I think if I installed a gearing ratio like a motocross bike, and top at 75...the bike would get me in another world of a lot more trouble.
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Not rare, but maybe not all that common either.

The DRZ is a the Swiss Army knife of tards. It does everything. Not well, but well enough.

A bit piggish stock, it responds nicely to mods, takes a beating like a trailer park wife and just never stops. Not the ultimate hooligan bike, but if you want reliability (kinda important for commuting) it's hard to do better, and next to impossible if cost is figured in. I commute on mine - does just fine.
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Here here! As an ex Drz owner... All of the above is true. I was lucky enough to find a modded Drz400E model which is lighter, better cam, 10+ HP over the S or SM models,(10 HP on a 300# bike makes a huge difference), and most years came w/ the fcr carb. Waaaaayyyyy more grunt than your standard drz400sm. If you can, find a E model that has been legalized or legalize it yourself. Pop on some SM wheels of your choice & you have a ' commuter/ hooligan bike.
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Also, I want to add a kickstart to my DRZ...not sure why you can't have both electric start and kick...but you can't.

My only things that I would do differently is not put on this yoshi can and change out my seat cover on my gel seat....the can is too loud and the seat is too slippery.
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If your plan is to commute on it, I think that excludes the SXV 550 from your list. , I think it excludes any "r" based tard (CRF450R, etc) as their rebuild intervals are just too short.

For what you want to do, a modified DRZ might be just what the doctor ordered.
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You can put a kickstarter on an electric start Drz ... But not the other way around.
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As has already been offered by Wiayemen with his, you can try out my KTM450SMR at GSS. It is street legal.

A LC4 motored KTM is a good choice as mentioned, but the 450's are fun as all get out and a little lighter.

A Honda XR650L (or an R) converted are great choices as well.

The DRZ is good all around as mentioned. Stay away from Aprilia 550's and 450's except for track usage. gas range and your hands feel like they have been holding a paint shaker running at full speed if being used at "street" speeds.

Grab one of Mekrew's and make it legal, it's not that hard to do.
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So I'm guessing this isn't a factory DRZ400SM...?



Thanks for all the info fellas... Tojo, thanks for the offer for riding your motard, but My luck I would probly crash it... haha
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Yep. Search Thumpertalk and I think there was a couple threads about doing it.
you lose electric start in the process....but i'd much rather have a kicker when the battery won't turn the motor over any more. adding the kickstart costs just over the price of a new battery...so I may eventually do it if I set the drz up for woods also.
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So I'm guessing this isn't a factory DRZ400SM...?
Actually, it very well could be, just a good rider.
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Thanks for all the info fellas... Tojo, thanks for the offer for riding your motard, but My luck I would probly crash it... haha
Odds are its pretty stock since he still has factory brake line. Drz is a BLAST man. Sure its heavy and slow compaired to some of the more powerful tards, however you can still haul on one and keep up with the bigger tards for street/hooliganism use. They wheelie,slide,endo just fine!
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Odds are its pretty stock since he still has factory brake line. Drz is a BLAST man. Sure its heavy and slow compaired to some of the more powerful tards, however you can still haul on one and keep up with the bigger tards for street/hooliganism use. They wheelie,slide,endo just fine!
Edit "the haul part was relative to motards"
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I have both the CRF250 and 450x motards. Both street legal and licensed with Baja kits. I learned how to ride on the 250 and just stepped up to the 450. Both have their place, no question the 450 has way more power.
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