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Old 10-03-2006, 04:10 PM   #1
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UHmmm i'm against the border fence.............edit i'm for it now thanx v rod

anyone see how much it's going to cost..............9 billions dollars for 700 miles of fence.........uhmmm we need to pay a contracter or something becuase tha'ts over priced. I'm for a fence but someone is getting banged on this deal and it's the citizens of this country.
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I thought it was 1.2 bil?
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wow, i tohught it was around 1.__? also yea they are getting raped!
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Can't we hire some Mexicans to get this done for cheap? :laughing6
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I thought it was 1.2 bil?
that's down payment the total is 9 billion
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serious, take a look and see who wins the contract for thie construction of this fence, I'll bet big money there will be a line of cameras ready to photograph any crew member who even remotely looks mexican.
another bet saying 50% or more of his crew will be mexicans.
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Jes make sure they're on the SOUTH side of the fence when they're digging!:laughing6



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Old 10-03-2006, 04:32 PM   #11
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anyone see how much it's going to cost..............9 billions dollars for 700 miles of fence.........uhmmm we need to pay a contracter or something becuase tha'ts over priced. I'm for a fence but someone is getting banged on this deal and it's the citizens of this country.
I'm sure it will have an EXCELLENT ROI, though :icon_bigg
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Oh ok i understand now. ok i agree. sorry i misunderstood.
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Old 10-03-2006, 05:43 PM   #15
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why dont yall volunteer to go build it? or is this another arm chair president thread.
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Old 10-03-2006, 05:45 PM   #16
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Here's that link I was referring to Pan...n it's waaaay more than I expected...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Aug25.html

Illegal Immigrants' Cost to Government Studied

By Mary Fitzgerald
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Thursday, August 26, 2004; Page A21

A report that found that illegal immigrants in the United States cost the federal government more than $10 billion a year -- a sum it estimated would almost triple if they were given amnesty -- has drawn criticism from immigration advocacy groups.

For its report, the Center for Immigration Studies, a Washington-based group that advocates tougher immigration policies, used Census Bureau figures to compare the revenue that illegal immigrants contribute through taxes with the cost of government services they use.

"Households headed by illegal aliens imposed more than $26.3 billion in costs on the federal government in 2002 and paid only $16 billion in taxes, creating a net fiscal deficit of $10.4 billion, or $2,700 per illegal household," said Steven A. Camarota, author of the study.

The costs outlined in the report include government services such as Medicaid, medical treatment for the uninsured, food assistance programs, the federal prison and court systems, and federal aid to schools.

The study acknowledged that, on average, the costs that illegal-immigrant households bear on the federal government are less than half that of other households, and that many of those costs relate to their U.S.-born children. It also pointed out that tax payments by illegal-immigrant households constitute one-fourth those of other households because of low-income jobs.

"With nearly two-thirds of illegal aliens lacking a high school degree, the primary reason they create a fiscal deficit is their low education levels and resulting low incomes and tax payments, not their legal status or heavy use of most social services," Camarota said.

The report estimates that granting legal status to illegal immigrants would dramatically increase their cost, causing the net fiscal deficit to rise to nearly $29 billion because, the author argues, unskilled immigrants would have access to more government services while continuing to make modest tax payments.

Camarota concluded in his report that the fiscal impact could be lessened only by stringently enforcing immigration laws, a view that drew criticism from some immigration specialists and advocacy groups that also accused him of not coming up with constructive recommendations.

"Implied within this study's findings is the sense that if these people could suddenly be made to disappear, the federal government would be $10 billion to the plus, and that is almost certainly not true once you look at the numbers," Jeffrey S. Passel, a demographer at the Urban Institute, said in an interview.

"Should you charge up to undocumented aliens the cost of small-business loans that they don't get or the cost of civil litigation, among other things? This report does that," he said.

Frank Sharry, director of the National Immigration Forum, an immigrant advocacy group, took issue with the report's treatment of illegal immigrants' U.S.-born children, who are American citizens.

"The costs of the children of immigrants are accounted for [in the report], but not their contributions to the economy as workers and taxpayers," he said in a written statement, adding that the report's conclusions were not helpful to the debate on immigration reform.

"There is a growing consensus in both political parties that our immigration system needs to be comprehensively reformed," Sharry said. "Our current system of haphazard laws, spotty enforcement, border chaos and unfair restrictions needs to be replaced by a regulatory regime that makes immigration safe, legal and orderly."
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sure hire mexicans to build it, lets see how long it takes LOL. Cajun, that is a good article. So is focused in $$$.
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The report estimates that granting legal status to illegal immigrants would dramatically increase their cost, causing the net fiscal deficit to rise to nearly $29 billion because, the author argues, unskilled immigrants would have access to more government services while continuing to make modest tax payments.
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So that means that the same amount of US citizens with the same skills cost the US 29 billions right now. , take all of those and make them illegal so they cost less.
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Old 10-03-2006, 08:54 PM   #19
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HA! Make those who are leaching on welfare build it? Prisoners? Except, I don't know of a single poltician with the nards to pull that off.
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Old 10-03-2006, 09:03 PM   #20
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better be one of the hi tech fence with giga billion volts running through it. All that electricity is gonna cost more than the illegal alien. it, why not put a mine field that is gonna put a good impression not crossed the border illegally. Or, designated as a proving ground for missles, bombs, or ammunition test field. Put up a fence, there will always be someone cut it through or dig a tunnel underneath it.
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