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Old 10-04-2006, 10:02 AM   #41
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you guys should know that aluminum is a stress fatigue-ing material, which means that if u have a 10k psi piece and apply 2k psi to it, over time it will fatigue and still break at 2k, so all the hard riding, whoolies, endos, and anything that stresses the front (any kind of riding) is going to weaken it, it seems that the big manufacturers went lean on the frame for racing (duh) and not that much for regular riding even though most ppl that buy them arent racers just posers
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any of the big manufacturers should do F.E.A. tests for thier bikes, after a lil thought i think that these ppl who say thier frame just broke are really mistreating thier bikes, i think there was a story in the paper a while back bout a kid who says his gixxer just broke, suziku was like yeah sure, ppl they have real engineers there bikes just dont break
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Old 10-04-2006, 10:56 AM   #43
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Sportbike manufacturers know their bikes are going to be ridden hard - wheelied, track day use, race use, stopped hard, etc. Just because a company has engineers doesn't mean they create flawless, everlasting machines. They aren't all created equal. New airplane designs are engineered over and over, checked, doubled checked, flight tested thousands of hours prior to certification, and many new designs hit the market with problems that don't surface until they are in real world service for a while - same with cars, trucks all machinery. All the brands have bikes that are ridden hard. Some have more problems with a particular model, than others. Sometimes a manufacturer hits a home run, sometimes they strike out. I cross brand lines with my purchases. Suzuki may or may not have a design problem with their frame, but to assume the ones that break did so because of prior abuse would be to assume the guys with kawasaki's / yamaha's / honda's / ducati's / etc. have never been wheelied, stoppied, hit high speed bumps, and so on. It is possible for a manufacturer to have a problem.
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your right they are tested extensively but that doesnt change the fact that aluminum stress fatigues. suzuki i think got it right but maybe the application process is tainted, i can only speculate.... my pops "has" welded a few gixxer frames and added bracing to the fork but these were for "stunters" who abuse bikes (and yes i know u can bring a bike down easy but not everyone does that)
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Aren't all the new sportbike frames are aluminum?
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yeah i know they are aluminum and it is strong enough, its just a personal hate for it, its IMHO :confused2 , i have to get over it when i get my new bike
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