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Old 05-25-2011, 04:03 PM   #21
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trust me, the performance of the beemer is very noticeable from 9k - 14.4k rpm,
last week we did a 3 gear roll on starting at 100mph, i was on my beemer and the other guy was on a slightly modded cbr1000 rr, as soon as i got on the gas the beemer just picked up speed very fast and all i can see in the mirror is the honda getting smaller and smaller, his bike stopped pulling around 178mph but my speedo reached 184.3 mph on six gear at 13.5k rpm and still pulling all the way to 15k rpm.
That sounds killer for the track and I heard it has an awesome growl 9k+. Problem is Im only gonna be at the track a few times a year. Also spent far too many days off work in court dodging speed tickets last time I lived in Houston. Damm popo everywhere. So I'm planning to keep it below the ton on the street as much as possible. Think I will sacrifice top end fun on the highway for tearing up the twisties in the woods on a blade.
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I'd see what rolls out next year. With BMW hitting early, then the ZX-10R and now the little Gixxers are getting Brembo's, BPF suspension. , even the Daytona's are stepping up. Won't be long before Brembo's, Ohlins suspension (or BPF), TC...etc are STD on all liter bikes and even the middle weights.
our current economy dictates what manufacturers mass produce for the market and realistically i find it hard to believe any manufacturer will be installing Ohlins on their standard version street bikes anytime soon.

The ducatis have the S and R versions and the aprilias have the factory version both are at least 4k more expensive than the standard version. Most manufacturers just want to produce the cheapest bike for the showroom floors and let each individual customize the bike to the level that the owner wants to take it to, it makes a lot more sense specially in a slow economy like ours.
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The US bikes are down on power compared to all of the rest of the world. An ECU retune brings it all back. Something like 8 rwhp at peak. Its pretty significant. Even in stock trim, they're not gutless. Its just the way it puts the power down isn't as frantic as other litres.
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If you are keeping it below the ton then why do you want a sport bike? Get a comfy sporty naked bike. Handle just as well, some are just as fast up to 100, and you can ride them all day comfortably. Slow speed maneuvering is so much easier too. Which is good for the city. Riding a liter bike on the street is like a tiger on a leash. Not much fun until you let go. Which gets you into trouble and it sounds like you want to avoid more tickets. The wind blast on a naked bike lets you know when you need to slow down.
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trust me, the performance of the beemer is very noticeable from 9k - 14.4k rpm,
last week we did a 3 gear roll on starting at 100mph, i was on my beemer and the other guy was on a slightly modded cbr1000 rr, as soon as i got on the gas the beemer just picked up speed very fast and all i can see in the mirror is the honda getting smaller and smaller, his bike stopped pulling around 178mph but my speedo reached 184.3 mph on six gear at 13.5k rpm and still pulling all the way to 15k rpm.
What race track were you at?
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trust me, the performance of the beemer is very noticeable from 9k - 14.4k rpm,
last week we did a 3 gear roll on starting at 100mph, i was on my beemer and the other guy was on a slightly modded cbr1000 rr, as soon as i got on the gas the beemer just picked up speed very fast and all i can see in the mirror is the honda getting smaller and smaller, his bike stopped pulling around 178mph but my speedo reached 184.3 mph on six gear at 13.5k rpm and still pulling all the way to 15k rpm.
Are you sure it was 184.3 and not 184.4 because according to my computer assisted calculation, that speed should only be sustained at appr. 13,478 RPM on humid day with winds coming from the southeast.
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Are you sure it was 184.3 and not 184.4 because according to my computer assisted calculation, that speed should only be sustained at appr. 13,478 RPM on humid day with winds coming from the southeast.
Awesome.

Seriously though buy whatever bike looks the coolest, odds are most people would lap these guys on a track with a 600.

You guys are talking about .100s of a second and when it comes down to it you are miles away from pushing these bikes to their limits anyways. Silly nerdish number crunching. Buy the pretty one, work on the gritty from there over time.

Bet my 600 laps faster than your liter.
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What race track were you at?
i dont believe the OP was asking which bike was better at the track

he asked about two bikes he is thinking about buying and since i have ridden both of them on the street i thought i share my experience with him.

this thread has nothing to do with street vs track at all!
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Awesome.

Seriously though buy whatever bike looks the coolest, odds are most people would lap these guys on a track with a 600.

You guys are talking about .100s of a second and when it comes down to it you are miles away from pushing these bikes to their limits anyways. Silly nerdish number crunching. Buy the pretty one, work on the gritty from there over time.

Bet my 600 laps faster than your liter.
i have seen Carlos Lascale go around liter bikes many times whenever he races at the track, when it comes down to it, it's always the rider and not the bike.

as for your statement, was it directed at me or at all literbikes in general?
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well, i understand there is a business behind track days but , you gotta lay off that topic once a while, specially when the OP was simply asking a question about honda vs bmw and not street vs track!
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i dont believe the OP was asking which bike was better at the track

he asked about two bikes he is thinking about buying and since i have ridden both of them on the street i thought i share my experience with him.

this thread has nothing to do with street vs track at all!
Hmmm, I thought the first one across the finish line was the winner
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i have seen Carlos Lascale go around liter bikes many times whenever he races at the track, when it comes down to it, it's always the rider and not the bike.

as for your statement, was it directed at me or at all literbikes in general?
Got home late, tipsy, felt like poking the bear.

I stand by my 'buy the pretty one' comment though. Speed doesn't matter on the street.
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Got home late, tipsy, felt like poking the bear.

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