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Old 05-17-2011, 09:33 AM   #61
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Not even close. The freeway is designed to be a free flowing road free of obstruction. If there is to be an obstruction such as construction or maintenance, there will be warning signs well ahead letting people know.

When you suddenly stop traffic on a road that is meant to not be stopped with no warning, you create a very dangerous situation.

That is why there a re very specific laws governing how, when and why to stop or slow down traffic in an interstate, because it is DANGEROUS to just hault the flow suddenly and with no warning.
that is also why you dont tailgate people when youre driving the freeway: to avoid these situations. a little common sense and defensive driving goes a long way.
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is this a serious question or are you pulling our leg?
Dead serious.

Would you be OK with ANYONE just stopping traffic on the interstate when ever they fell like it? At any time?
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Dead serious.

Would you be OK with ANYONE just stopping traffic on the interstate when ever they fell like it? At any time?
of course not, but that wasnt your question. your question was do you blame the people stopping traffic for a brief moment or the moron that wasnt paying attention and hit you. so the answer is: of course you blame the idiot that was tailgating, eating, reading the paper, putting on her make up, texting, facebooking, turning around yelling at their kids, being an all out shitty driver to begin with. THAT is who you blame. poor drivers will hit you, whether youre at a designated intersection, stopping for a funeral procession, or otherwise. its their fault. its pretty cut and dry, and im failing to see the confusion here.
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that is also why you dont tailgate people when youre driving the freeway: to avoid these situations. a little common sense and defensive driving goes a long way.
I dont tail gate, I have never had an accident. I try not to drive like , I really do.

Like I said before, I am worried about the ones that arent as aware or careful. It is not fair to introduce yet another situation where these careless drivers can harm the good drivers.

Just makes no sense to me.
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Third, with regards to your old lady example, please explain to us all the exact difference between some douchenozzle stopping on an on-ramp unexpectedly and an outrider stopping traffic? Here's a hint - the old bat would hit you either way.

The problem is not the person stopping traffic for whatever reason. The problem is the people who are not paying attention to what is going on around them.
Theyre both wrong. It's dangerous to stop traffic on a freeway under any scenario.

Didn't a biker die on 290 last week when it hit a disabled car?
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Theyre both wrong. It's dangerous to stop traffic on a freeway under any scenario.

Didn't a biker die on 290 last week when it hit a disabled car?
not to be the inconsiderate here, but the biker should have been more aware of his surroundings and payed attention.
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of course not, but that wasnt your question. your question was do you blame the people stopping traffic for a brief moment or the moron that wasnt paying attention and hit you. so the answer is: of course you blame the idiot that was tailgating, eating, reading the paper, putting on her make up, texting, facebooking, turning around yelling at their kids, being an all out shitty driver to begin with. THAT is who you blame. poor drivers will hit you, whether youre at a designated intersection, stopping for a funeral procession, or otherwise. its their fault. its pretty cut and dry, and im failing to see the confusion here.
Look, we will just have to agree to disagree. I am not so much against the funeral processions as I am against just some that stop the freeway just cause they want to .

At least funerals have police escorts with lights warning people ahead of time and being visible.

I am more talking about the motorcycle groups that jump out on the freeway and stop cars so all their buddies can go together. That is completely asinine and irresponsible.
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of course not, but that wasnt your question. your question was do you blame the people stopping traffic for a brief moment or the moron that wasnt paying attention and hit you. so the answer is: of course you blame the idiot that was tailgating, eating, reading the paper, putting on her make up, texting, facebooking, turning around yelling at their kids, being an all out shitty driver to begin with. THAT is who you blame. poor drivers will hit you, whether youre at a designated intersection, stopping for a funeral procession, or otherwise. its their fault. its pretty cut and dry, and im failing to see the confusion here.
Sounds to me like fault lays in more than one place. I wouldn't want to be a random traffic monitor that stopped traffic for a group ride sitting in a courtroom if a couple kids got killed.

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Look, we will just have to agree to disagree. I am not so much against the funeral processions as I am against just some that stop the freeway just cause they want to .

At least funerals have police escorts with lights warning people ahead of time and being visible.

I am more talking about the motorcycle groups that jump out on the freeway and stop cars so all their buddies can go together. That is completely asinine and irresponsible.
im not disagreeing with that, nor am i saying its ok. ill admit, ive done it myself and im sure ive some people off in the process. what i am disagreeing with however is blaming them for someone else rear-ending you. im going to assume your brake lights work, yes? if so, and someone hits you from behind, then they should have been paying more attention when driving a two ton death machine.
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I am not trying to be a here.

All I know is that common sense tells me that in a situation where traffic is free moving, the least sudden obstructions you place, the safer it will be. Even a child could see that's the case.

I just know, not think, know that I would never want to cause a situation where someone could potentially be seriously hurt or killed.

It just isnt right, thats all.
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so what do you do when there are cyclists? they have a right to the roads as well.
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Really?

Wow - talk about a self-centered, self-important, inconsiderate douchebag....

Dude - I'm about as intolerant as they come, but even I have respect for a funeral procession.

The guy's last ride on earth and you want to control even THAT?
Wow. Sorry you're having a bad day, week, or life. I stated that I would prefer funeral processions stay on surface streets (because it's safer), and you stated that I'm a "self-centered, self-important, inconsiderate douchebag." Do you think maybe you're overreacting, as though I just passed a law that forces you to wear a seatbelt while on a motorcycle, or some other dumb ?

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...please explain to us all the exact difference between some douchenozzle stopping on an on-ramp unexpectedly and an outrider stopping traffic? Here's a hint - the old bat would hit you either way.
The problem is not the person stopping traffic for whatever reason. The problem is the people who are not paying attention to what is going on around them.
Actually, it's not just the "old bat's" problem, it's their fault. But it is still a problem for whomever the old bat hits. You can't ignore the fact that the average person is, at the least, often distracted. Reminding me of a saying about not sticking your in an alligator's mouth and not expecting bad things.
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Cuss at them as well. Lance Armstrong is a piece of shlt for making that ghei sport cool.
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so what do you do when there are cyclists? they have a right to the roads as well.
If they have a group ride, on 610, at rush hour, they're fair game

Everyone has completely lost the point of the original post.. completely stopping traffic on 610 so the group could stay together.

Asinine.


And FYI when planning a group ride, staying off known congested highways goes a long way to preventing these occurances
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hahaha touche.
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If they have a group ride, on 610, at rush hour, they're fair game

Everyone has completely lost the point of the original post.. completely stopping traffic on 610 so the group could stay together.

Asinine.
i agreed with that.
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