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Old 05-13-2011, 07:46 AM   #1
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Riding two up

Believe it or not, I finally met someone who would put up with my crazy (if I wasn't good in bed I'd be screwed ), and since the truck is down we've been riding two up on my bike for a week or so. Problem is, I got the suspension customized for my weight, which makes the bike unstable with two people on it, which is aggravated by the fact that she gets nervous in the turns and sometimes leans the wrong way Can someone tell me how to adjust the suspension to the right ball park for riding two up on a bike sprung for a single specific rider? ZZR 600 07, all racetech internals for shock and forks, and a spring for a 220 pound rider (yeah, I know I'm a fat )?
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telling her to look or lean in the direction of the turn and never look out of the turn would be a good start.
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You can crank some more pre-load into the rear shock, but it will be too stiff for you solo after that..
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Send her to us and then tell her to get her own bike.
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I always find telling the passenger to put her head on the shoulder the side the turn is on helps. This way they don't have to lean and it will remove the uneasy feeling she has by doing this. Old rider taught me this years ago. Now I am the old guy passing it on.

Sorry can't help you with your adjustments. You might want to drop in Motorcyles Unlimited and have them help you adjust it.
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Spring preload - adjust the collar at the top of the spring, clockwise to make the spring pressure firmer, anticlockwise to make it softer. You'll need to undo the lock ring first, then adjust the adjuster collar, then tighten the lockring up again.
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telling her to look or lean in the direction of the turn and never look out of the turn would be a good start.
Duh! But you know the womenz don't listen I had to settle for, "Just hold on tight and try to lean as I do." She still pretty much just hangs on for dear life cause she's scared shitless of riding, honestly, I'm surprised she will get on at all, but I haven't given up on trying to teach her cause she makes some good sammichs

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You can crank some more pre-load into the rear shock, but it will be too stiff for you solo after that..
Guess I can keep up with the degree of turns when adding the pre-load, I was just wondering if there was some kind way to get it in the right ball park without having to adjust it a hundred times I figured it was a long shot, but you can learn near anything on MH.
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Send her to us and then tell her to get her own bike.
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i did, worked great. now i have a 250 to play with
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Send her to us and then tell her to get her own bike.
Somehow I don't see her riding her own without a LOT of practice. Never know though

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I always find telling the passenger to put her head on the shoulder the side the turn is on helps. This way they don't have to lean and it will remove the uneasy feeling she has by doing this. Old rider taught me this years ago. Now I am the old guy passing it on.

Sorry can't help you with your adjustments. You might want to drop in Motorcyles Unlimited and have them help you adjust it.
Good info and good suggestion I sure as wish Motorcycles Unlimited was closer though

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Even if she doesn't end up riding her own, it will give her a better understanding of how a motorcycle operates and make her a better passenger (usually).

Another option is to take an ERC with her as a passenger. Cost is $50 for her. She doesn't get an official DPS certificate and isn't required to ride any exercises she doesn't want to.
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You can count the exposed threads before you turn it, or measure with a caliper.

Or use a white out pen or white sharpie, mark a good thick line on top of the collar/nut.

Since you are tightening the preload, the mark will remain untouched, and you can return it real close later.

I wouldn't recommend doing it a bunch; you'll wear out the collar..
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Even if she doesn't end up riding her own, it will give her a better understanding of how a motorcycle operates and make her a better passenger (usually).

Another option is to take an ERC with her as a passenger. Cost is $50 for her. She doesn't get an official DPS certificate and isn't required to ride any exercises she doesn't want to.
Thanks for the info. I'll look into this.
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you'll wear out the collar..
Might have to start making my own sammiches again
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If shes worth it, just buy an Ohlins with an external adjuster...
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I dont even bother with changing the settings, I just take it easy. Then again my wife makes a better passenger it sounds like. Usually I just tell other passengers to look over my shoulder in the direction we are turning and I have not had an issue yet.
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I've ridden lots of first-timers and the best thing I've found is what v4lu3s says - just take it easy. Slow down on corners so the bike stays more up-right until she starts to get the feel of leaning. I also never ride 2 on anything less than a liter bike. If she's tall your going to have stability conditions to deal with because the center of mass gets higher. Put a little more air in the tires too. If she's "padded" - - - stop making so many samiches!!!!
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Upon further review....

In order to make a qualified decision on preload..



We are gonna need some pics of aforementioned sammich maker...
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You can crank some more pre-load into the rear shock, but it will be too stiff for you solo after that..
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I usually only use the compression cranked up which is about 4-6 clicks and that works great for me. Also I tell my passengers to be a sack of potatoes, no leaning, it just interferes with the inputs I am making during a corner. The more planted she is on the back seat without squirming the better.
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