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Old 09-27-2006, 06:22 PM   #141
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my rents would let my girl stay over while we dated in highschoool.. and yes, we did the nasty.
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Old 09-27-2006, 06:24 PM   #142
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all i did was lose respect for my parents for not trying to explain their reasons or why's.
they're your parents. not your friends.
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think of it this way.. if they're doing it at the house, they're goign to be doing it anyways.. rather educate your child about it adn kinda let it happen in the safety of your home, or let the cops bring your kids home cause they got caught doing it in the nieghborhood playground.
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they're your parents. not your friends.

Doesn't matter. If "because I said so" is the best you can do, you got problems.


... and by 'you' I don't necessarily mean you in particular RacerX.



As far as beating a kid.. I have no problem with spanking, but only if it is done the way it was done in school. You got in trouble, you were told of the punishment, punishment given. There was no anger or rage or frustration behind the pops.

If you are red-faced, huffing and puffing and swinging, that's more abuse than discipline.

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BUT IMO "i said so" is sufficient.......
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just be real with your kids. They are at that age. You just need to let them know how you feel exactly, and hope they respect and follow your input. You can't decide for you child, unless you want to be one of those lame rents that controll every little second of their life.
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Old 09-27-2006, 06:55 PM   #148
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**** it if I have a daugher she is going on birth control the day she has her first period and I'll tell her everything I know about and let her make up her mind. and if she is gonna do it I'd rather she (or any of my kids) feel comfortable doing it at home and talking to me about it rather than doing it at look out point or in the stairwell at school etc etc (not that they WONT be doing it there anyway lol I remember when I was that age) just like drinking and other behaviors.

more than anything I'd let kids know that its just . don't ****ing build it up like its this huge thing. I waited a long time before I lost my V status and when I finally had , I remember the words one of my friends told me when they first had :
"I was like, this is it? This is what everyone made such a big deal out of? This is what I waited so long to do?"

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Kids are gonna do it might as well educate it and encourage them to do it someplace safe and healthy.
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they probibly keepin it all in the family
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man i remember i was like spiderman and batman back when i was 16-17........climbing walls, jumping of roofs, and hopping thru windows hahahhahhahhahahha .......i was a ninjaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
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agreed

BUT IMO "i said so" is sufficient.......
all dads are entitled to the "dad factor", but there is no reason why you still cant take the time to talk to your children about the issues you are concerned about.

whats better? have them do whats right because they are told, or do whats right because they understand how to judge right from wrong on their own?

what happens when your daughter encounters a moral issue you havnt allready laid down the law about? they may well make the wrong choice because your ego didnt let you actually teach them anything other than rules.

why cant parents just put their ego's down and talk to the kids? maybe you were just too busy with your hobbies or your work to take the time. way to go deadbeat. or maybe you were just too afraid.

FYI, you dont make the rules, life does. and its life's rules, not yours that they will have to face and deal with when they leave the nest...

..or maybe you are one of the parents that doesnt give a once they leave the nest cause its "not your problem anymore"

all i can say that aweful parenting is what creates these nightmare 17 year old boys that all these parents of 17 year old daughters are so afraid of:

no, dad F*CK YOU! POW!

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**** it if I have a daugher she is going on birth control the day she has her first period and I'll tell her everything I know about and let her make up her mind...
YES! THAT is what i am talking about. you are awesome!
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go fug yourself, pal. all you are communicating with that belt is that your an a*hole. my parents gave me the belt, the yardstick, threw me against the wall, you name it.

i still did whatever i wanted to, and i did cause i wanted to.

all i did was lose respect for my parents for not trying to explain their reasons or why's. no "because i say so" isnt good enough. wtf is your problem u cant about the problem u gotta be frustrated and get violent cause u dont know how else to handle the situation. gfj
well it looks like your parents were abusive cause if you love your child there is no way you will slam them against a wall. And about me being an , go jerk yourself off. Back in the days when parents used to discipline their kids with belts and smacking them when they get out of line, kids used to have more respect for their parents and their elders. And with that kind of punishment also came an explanation of why what we were doing or thinking about doing is wrong and the effects those decisions could have on our lives. Any way you want to look at it, the point came across. And racerx is right about them being your parents and not your friends. In no way should you disrespect the people who gave you life and have taken care of you your entire life. I mean, if your parents tell you "cause i say so" you better well listen. Now im all against parents being abusive and not explaining to their kids, but you can only say so much to a kid. Sometimes giving them a good smack will get their attention and let them know you mean business. And fyi, my parents whooped me whenever i screwed up and also explained my wrong doing and i thank them for caring that much cause it has made me a better person and i have the utmost respect for them.
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And fyi, my parents whooped me whenever i screwed up and also explained my wrong doing and i thank them for caring that much cause it has made me a better person and i have the utmost respect for them.
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vs nowadays where kids WANT respect from their parents....................pffft!
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Hopefully I'll have raised my daughter in a way that she will do the right thing and know that her would be severely beaten for even asking that dumbass question of whether such n such can sleep over...

HELLLLLOOO! This is what I'm saying!! I was raised to not even ask a dumbass question like that. My mom would have beat me so badly that I would never want to sleep with anyone due to trauma.
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more than anything I'd let kids know that its just . don't ****ing build it up like its this huge thing. I waited a long time before I lost my V status and when I finally had , I remember the words one of my friends told me when they first had :
"I was like, this is it? This is what everyone made such a big deal out of? This is what I waited so long to do?"

lol

Kids are gonna do it might as well educate it and encourage them to do it someplace safe and healthy.
Well, here I go again with my square-old-lady view of the world.

1.) Yes, kids need to be educated on safe .

2.) IMHO, A big part of the problem is that kids look at as "just ." You know, when you have "just " with someone...you're right...it's not very good. Big deal--wham, bam, thank-you mam. (Here I go sounding hokey...) But when you REALLY make love with someone...I mean REALLY make intimate emotional, physical and spiritual love to a person, it is a mind blowing experience. I'm sorry, but I don't really know many 17 year olds who are in that deep of a relationship.

3.) I would never beat the out of my kid for having , drinking ...etc. Just not my style--we have respect for one another.
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given the proper values were instilled in the child you could trust them to not have , or have safe , in which case there isnt a problem. my advice applies to all the rest of the parents who dont have children with good values. if you cant keep them from doing what they want, right or wrong, at least keep them safe instead of pulling the wool over your own eyes.
Yea there's a difference between putting a wool over there eyes and being as I said before: a catalyst to that behaviour...If you put a cookie in front of your 3 year old n tell him not to eat it...if you walk away, do you expect him not to eat it? You crazy if not...now you take that same cookie and leave it in a jar on in the kitchen, sure he knows that jar and that cookie are there but it's that much harder for him to get to it...wonder if you undersand that one ?
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if yall had a son would u let his gf spend the nite? and do "the nasty" in ur house??
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