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Old 09-27-2006, 04:33 PM   #121
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And you come acroos as a moron...

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Sir thanks for the compliment, i would choose to be wise and ignore it. I always thought of you as a wise guy, u just proved its not entirely true.

I work in the corporate world, and we often talk about too many managers tackling symptoms and not problems. Thats exactly what came to my mind when I was reading ppl's responses.

Having said that, its also true that not ALL kids will do it. And you have to try of course, but there r lot more things to that 'try' when u wake up to reality than what ppl here talked about.
Reality is a sir, and replies of MANY(not ALL) ppl on here were ignorant/dismissive of reality. and for clairty sake again Sir, i said MOST, not ALL.
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Old 09-27-2006, 04:36 PM   #122
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I agree with this 100%. I have an 18 year old son--i wouldn't allow him to either stay over night at his girlfriends house OR have his girlfriend stay overnight at our house. AND....he respects my opinion on things like that...SO..he wouldn't ask OR sneak and do it. We have an open relationship and discuss things like , drinking and drugs.

I'm blessed, he's a great kid.

word. my mom doesnt let any girls spend the night at our house. she says its respect or something.
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Old 09-27-2006, 04:37 PM   #123
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word. my mom doesnt let any girls spend the night at our house. she says its respect or something.
NBut that is not stopping you is it? :laughing6
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Old 09-27-2006, 04:52 PM   #124
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Sir thanks for the compliment, i would choose to be wise and ignore it. I always thought of you as a wise guy, u just proved its not entirely true.

I work in the corporate world, and we often talk about too many managers tackling symptoms and not problems. Thats exactly what came to my mind when I was reading ppl's responses.

Having said that, its also true that not ALL kids will do it. And you have to try of course, but there r lot more things to that 'try' when u wake up to reality than what ppl here talked about.
Reality is a sir, and replies of MANY(not ALL) ppl on here were ignorant/dismissive of reality. and for clairty sake again Sir, i said MOST, not ALL.
Anytime fella...as for my compliment, didn't say you "were" in fact a moron, but rather that you "came-across" as a moron as a result of the statement you made. Now as for my wisdom...we're grown so there's no sense in bickering about what you think of my intelligence or wisdom. On the topic of facing reality as it relates to children having prematurely...again, I didn't realize we were listing proper methods for actually raising ones child. I realize teens will have but 1) I think it absolutely wrong to think it proper to allow ones child to have their "boyfriend/girlfriend" sleep in the same home, let alone room. 2) Just because they will do it does not mean that you the parent should act as a catalyst for such behaviour. Again, they may very well go against everything you say once they hit that crucial time in their life that dictates what type of person they will be as an adult, however, you can only raise as best you can and hope that the values you have ingrained them with will carry them...
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Old 09-27-2006, 04:56 PM   #125
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^ agreed with that. and no offence taken
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Old 09-27-2006, 05:02 PM   #126
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^ agreed with that. and no offence taken
None intended...don't even know if we really disagree (on this issue)...just didn't like the way you seemed to jump down my throat (perhaps I jumped the gun), and I didn't feel that any of my or Brena or BikerBarbie's statements were hypocritical...either way, you know where I stand on it and hopefully I clarified thoroughly...
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Old 09-27-2006, 05:03 PM   #127
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? is, would you let your 17 y.o. daughters B/F sleep over?
no. Daughter's BF will not even be allowed in her room!

When I was 17 my GF and I were doing the deed with her bedroom door open. Parents were home and we'd just listen for someone coming.

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Old 09-27-2006, 05:24 PM   #128
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All I can say is that if my parents let my bf sleep over when I was 17, I'd think they were losing it. I felt wierd when my fiancee (sp?) stayed over when we were visiting from out of town. He slept in another room. Unless you're married, I just don't see it as being right. However, to each their own!!
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Old 09-27-2006, 05:36 PM   #130
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whether they spend the night is not the issue. 17 year olds will have anytime anywhere. preventing the bf from sleeping over is in no way preventing them having , and if you think for one second it is, your an idiot. period. like or not, your hands are tied, there is nothing you can do, and you cannot stop them. all you can do is show them how to use these

Fug that. I bet Ill take my belt off and beat them til they understand! And thats the problem today. You just cant beat kids like you used to.
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This problem has been around forever and still no one good answer. Each child is different in their own ways. The parent(s) has to know that individual and play it by ears, and shouldn't be allow to run free at that age.
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Fug that. I bet Ill take my belt off and beat them til they understand! And thats the problem today. You just cant beat kids like you used to.

nothing like an old fashion loving and beating.
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Old 09-27-2006, 05:44 PM   #133
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Everybody raise there hand that wishes they were 17 and having again.
irony is the older i get the better it gets ... thats why i love high school chicks .... i keep getting older but they stay the same age ...
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just reliving "dazed and confused" u dumba$$
whatever. dont try and cover up your true feelings and shoot that fuggin cat already:laughing6
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Given the proper values were instilled in your child...your wrong.
given the proper values were instilled in the child you could trust them to not have , or have safe , in which case there isnt a problem. my advice applies to all the rest of the parents who dont have children with good values. if you cant keep them from doing what they want, right or wrong, at least keep them safe instead of pulling the wool over your own eyes.
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ok, since i'm older, i'll ask you youngins.

friend of mine started dating this women, she has a 17y.o. daughter, and this mom allows her daughters B/F to sleep over. i'm pretty sure she know their doing "the nasty". all of us old foggies were were pretty against it.

what do y'all think?


depends on the parents.....i dated a girl for 3 years (soph. to senior year in high school) and after the 2nd year, i was sleeping over, at monday night football with her dad, and pretty much a part of the family. but thats a special situation. they knew i was sleeping with her, but i would never do it when they were home.

other times, i feel weird sleeping over at a girls house....i guess a respect thing.
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Fug that. I bet Ill take my belt off and beat them til they understand! And thats the problem today. You just cant beat kids like you used to.
go fug yourself, pal. all you are communicating with that belt is that your an a*hole. my parents gave me the belt, the yardstick, threw me against the wall, you name it.

i still did whatever i wanted to, and i did cause i wanted to.

all i did was lose respect for my parents for not trying to explain their reasons or why's. no "because i say so" isnt good enough. wtf is your problem u cant about the problem u gotta be frustrated and get violent cause u dont know how else to handle the situation. gfj
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