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Old 05-12-2011, 09:44 PM   #41
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I know this question was directed at me, but RIGHT I don't pay. Although I wear my seat belt these days (my personal choice, not a law) I have gone to jail at least a half a dozen times for failure to pay my seat belt fine.
wow..... talk about not learning ur lesson!

pick a better law to break to put urself in jail. one thats more fun maybe?!?!
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Old 05-12-2011, 10:02 PM   #42
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Old 05-12-2011, 11:28 PM   #43
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You can choose to smoke however the state can choose where you smoke (i.e. public places, restaurants, bars etc). however it is your right to smoke. It is your right to drive a vehicle however you are driving on tax paid roads so yes, they can make safety rules mandatory. Driving is a privilege, not a right.
One point of disagreement here. The state should not be able to tell people they cannot smoke in bars or restaurants because those establishments are private property. The owner of those establishments should be able to make that choice.
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Old 05-12-2011, 11:32 PM   #44
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interesting..while I love wearing my awesome chick magnet of a helmet, I dont feel that its the gov'ts job to tell me to wear it.
But I suppose a seatbelt is different.. or better yet.. PEOPLE TEXTING AND DRIVING.. But obviously these are safety issues.. and a Helmet on your head doesn't count..
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Old 05-12-2011, 11:49 PM   #45
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if they make check points, they need to make them for everyone. how many are there out there driving on suspended licenses running over motorcycles? loads of people driving around w/o insurance as well. it isn't just motorcyclists that break the law, and seeing that a vast chunk motorcycle injuries occur from dumbass cagers, they are focusing on the wrong group
aggree with this one. But.. if they want to enforce things.. they should start with the mandatory hands free in cars first.

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I wear my helmet. I dont want the govt telling me what to do.

I make my kids wear their seatbelts. I dont want the govt telling me I have to make them.

I also dont want to be stopped just to see if my saftey equipment (which SHOULD'NT BE MANDITORY) is in spec.
well said..

- My 2c.
Safety equipment on a motorcycle shouldn't be mandated period.
- now if a time comes and Billy Badass crashes with no insurance.. I would like to propose a non-mandatory medical care as well. It's ridiculous to have to pay for schmucks riding around thinkin they're invincible and have no health insurance when they splat on the freeway. TAX payer's money. I wouldn't be surprised if 80% of them are the ones whinning about wearing gear too.

- I think it's a great idea not to mandate safety gear now that I think about it. Let the Gene pool weed itself of morons.

Now checkpoints for car insurance? That should be mandated. Should be like a state inspection sticker..
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Old 05-13-2011, 09:21 AM   #46
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Correct me if I am wrong. If you are over 18 have taken a beginner riding course then law states you do not have to wear a helmet.

Seems like they would have to make helmets mandatory for check point to work in first place.

Then they will start ticketing riders for not wearing helmets or non DOT approved helmets.

Now that helmets are covered the gov't will start inspecting jackets, boots gloves, etc.

I'm all for safety but I don't like the idea of big brother getting involved. BB usually only gets involved for money and not safety, just my opinion.
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Old 05-13-2011, 09:55 AM   #47
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not the govt's place to tell me whether or not i should be wearing a seatbelt, just like its not their place to make me quit smoking.
I'm not big on laws for common sense. But, when someone doesn't wear a seat belt in a vehicle while all others are buckled up it endangers the people in the car that chose to me safe.
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Old 05-13-2011, 11:51 AM   #48
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One point of disagreement here. The state should not be able to tell people they cannot smoke in bars or restaurants because those establishments are private property. The owner of those establishments should be able to make that choice.
It's private property but open to the public. That's how they regulate it.

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Guys, it's not 'big brother'. When you bust your head open or fly through the windshield of a car the public pays for it either directly or indirectly. That's why driving is a licensed (restricted) activity. If you're gonna drive on roads funded by the public then the public (the gov) can make laws restricting how you're gonna do it.
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