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Old 09-26-2006, 05:32 PM   #1
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?? honda superhawk 996

ok , question is, is his bike an ok bike as far as running and track days, guy i know is selling it i think its a 2000, its got rash and is leaking fuel from the front carb, fixable but is it ok for the track, i want a track bike and a commuter
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Old 09-26-2006, 05:36 PM   #2
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I had one for a year before I got rear ended on it. Strong motor...around 108hp. Definetly do a gearing change from stock. Some minor and cheap upgrades will make it an ok track bike and is a great commuter.
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ok , question is, is his bike an ok bike as far as running and track days, guy i know is selling it i think its a 2000, its got rash and is leaking fuel from the front carb, fixable but is it ok for the track, i want a track bike and a commuter
its has flat slide carbs stock i think. make sure it's solid other than those problems. ithink it would be a good bike to start track days on. wha'ts he selling it for??
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I LOVE THAT BIKE!!
I had one for 5 years. The carbs are not flat slides. The suspension needs work for track riding, if not right away it will soon as you progress. A common mod was an ohlins rear shock and race-tech internals in the forks. Go down one up two for gearing and you'll be fine in that area. A set of Jardine slip-ons sound bad and gave much better power than staintunes or you can go ghetto and gut the stock cans.I used a stage III dyno-jet jet kit but slip-ons work fine without a jet kit, just shim the needles.

That pretty much describes how I had mine set up. It was great for a starter track bike and every day commuter. I pulled double duty on mine, track days and daily driver, put over 60K on it and it still pulled hard and wheelied easy. The guy who bought from me it loved it too. I say seee if a gasket kit is available for the carbs and if so, go for it. I know those carbs inside and out if you need help.

Hmm..... now that you mention this, if you don't want it maybe I do. I wouldn't mind having one for a commuter bike and leaving my bike as track only.....

PM me if you decide not to buy it or if you have any more questions.

Down sides of this bike are few.
Rear-sets are the biggest one for track riding. Aftermarket ones cost a fortune and so do stock ones. They, the rear-sets, don't crash well. Yeah, that's about the only real downside, well that and it's pretty heavy.

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Forgot to mention that a common flaw is that they tend to stall out when coming to a stop.
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wow thanks for the info fellas, ill see if i can work a deal.......
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Forgot to mention that a common flaw is that they tend to stall out when coming to a stop.
this is due to poorly tuned carbs if it's normal stopping/coming off the gas

under hard braking like on the track this happens but can be easily fixed by pointing the carb hoses down and not across, ummm, never mind, if you get the bike I'll show you.
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this is due to poorly tuned carbs if it's normal stopping/coming off the gas

under hard braking like on the track this happens but can be easily fixed by pointing the carb hoses down and not across, ummm, never mind, if you get the bike I'll show you.
It can happen to properly tuned carbs as well. doing what you said and adjusting the tps sensor helps quite a bit. Putting a shim under the rear shock mount and raising the forks in the trees to drop the nose helps handling. Never like the clutch on the bikes though. Too quick to engage and cannot do a proper burnout if dragstrip bound. Stainless brakelines tighten up stopping power.
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Roger that.

I was thinking of the high performance type that are a pain in the to use on the street but go like once opened up. I didn't want him to think that was the case for a stock superhawk. Yes, the slides are flat but the power curve is linear and not like typical flat slides.
yeah you're talking about those all out performance keihn flatslides those thing will scream. I've seen bike with just that mod alone make like 1 to 15 extra hp on the dyno. they weren't for low speed riding though. accelerater pump will help though.
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yeah you're talking about those all out performance keihn flatslides those thing will scream. I've seen bike with just that mod alone make like 1 to 15 extra hp on the dyno. they weren't for low speed riding though. accelerater pump will help though.
that's exactly what I meant.
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It can happen to properly tuned carbs as well. doing what you said and adjusting the tps sensor helps quite a bit. Putting a shim under the rear shock mount and raising the forks in the trees to drop the nose helps handling. Never like the clutch on the bikes though. Too quick to engage and cannot do a proper burnout if dragstrip bound. Stainless brakelines tighten up stopping power.
I had a 7mm shim on my Ohlins. I had lowered the front but eventually went back to stock to try and regain cornering clearance at the track, was in vain though. Eventually bought a gsxr track bike.

A good throttle synch paid off hugely on these carbs. I never had that stalling problem unless I was in the middle of playing with the jetting, what a PITA that was!

I had the braided lines and EBC rotors. I stayed with HH pads vs. going full race since I communted on it.

I never worried about doing a burnout when drag racing. I wouldn't do one on the starting grid and to practice my launch for racing was my incentive to go to the 1/4 mile.
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