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Old 05-09-2011, 03:01 PM   #1
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Question For those that ride MX tracks

So I recently acquired a 2009 YZ250F. I took the bike to Ultimate MX this past Saturday to take it for a spin, all I can say is WOW!!!! The bike is amazing, I had a 2005 RMZ250 at some point and the bike does not compare at all, the YZ feels way better.

Anyway, I noticed that the YZ only has 4 gears, my question is - When riding at the track do you use all 4 gears or just from 2nd to 4th? On Saturday I tried both ways but it seems that when exiting in first the bike seems too forced but, when I go out in second, I feel like I am coming to high.

Anyway, as you can tell, I am fairly new to the dirt and MX especially so any help would be appreciated
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So I recently acquired a 2009 YZ250F. I took the bike to Ultimate MX this past Saturday to take it for a spin, all I can say is WOW!!!! The bike is amazing, I had a 2005 RMZ250 at some point and the bike does not compare at all, the YZ feels way better.

Anyway, I noticed that the YZ only has 4 gears, my question is - When riding at the track do you use all 4 gears or just from 2nd to 4th? On Saturday I tried both ways but it seems that when exiting in first the bike seems too forced but, when I go out in second, I feel like I am coming to high.

Anyway, as you can tell, I am fairly new to the dirt and MX especially so any help would be appreciated
That's a hard question to answer. If your about to bounce off the rev limiter then click up a gear and see how it feels. What's great about those 4 strokes is the torque. Try coming into the turn in the higher gear and carry more speed and let the motor shine.

Don't be afraid to rev the outta those bikes either. They like to be abused and are built to take it.

Either way, unless it's a super tight inside rut, you should almost never need to get down into first. Granted have not ridden a 250f with a 4 speed tranny but in my experience with any bike i've ever ridden, first gear is almost never used unless i'm putting around the pits.

Lastly, every track and every turn is different. Once you get used to the bike and power delievery, you'll get a feel for what the bike likes to do in every corner on every track you ride.


You can also play around with adding or subtracting teeth on the rear sprocket. Smaller tighter tracks usually benefit from adding a tooth or two to the rear while the faster wide open tracks might favor tooth or two less.

Hope i could help a little.
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Old 05-09-2011, 03:50 PM   #3
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Thank you, Kyle. It does help. I think I need to get used to riding in the dirt.

BTW, I can see why Danny likes riding in the dirt now, I spent 20 bucks to enter the track, 20 bucks gas and about 10 bucks for water and a sandwich. 50 bucks to ride all day!!!!!

My body is aching still, though.
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Thank you, Kyle. It does help. I think I need to get used to riding in the dirt.

BTW, I can see why Danny likes riding in the dirt now, I spent 20 bucks to enter the track, 20 bucks gas and about 10 bucks for water and a sandwich. 50 bucks to ride all day!!!!!

My body is aching still, though.
Go do the Texas Tornado Boot Camp, it will help you a lot.
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Thank you, Kyle. It does help. I think I need to get used to riding in the dirt.

BTW, I can see why Danny likes riding in the dirt now, I spent 20 bucks to enter the track, 20 bucks gas and about 10 bucks for water and a sandwich. 50 bucks to ride all day!!!!!

My body is aching still, though.
I don't know much about 4 strokes, but 1st gear on a MX track is almost unheard of....I RARELY even use 1st in the tightest of the tight woods we race. Now come try out a hare scramble sooner than later and you'll really be hooked on this dirt stuff! Unfortunately, due to other obligations I can't make the May race, but will be trying to make it out for the June race if you're interested. Congrats on the new bike dude!
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I am not sure riding a 4 speed motocross bike in a hare scramble will be good for the engine but, I'll try it once for sure. I can do May anyways so, June sounds pretty good.

Alberto, I will ride the camp before I retire for sure How was it? Did your kid like it?
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Irak, whenever you want to run the woods...let me know. you too danny. also, keep me in mind before loading up towards the mx track.

Also, can i try out your 09? i'm curious about the changes that i might not expect over 5 years of technology. i'll let you try out my 04 kxf which is basically your old rmz. you can see if its the same or not...you might have had a few issues...i know this 04 still does, but the problems are really getting ironed out and the bike is quickly becoming my favorite.
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Thank you, Kyle. It does help. I think I need to get used to riding in the dirt.

BTW, I can see why Danny likes riding in the dirt now, I spent 20 bucks to enter the track, 20 bucks gas and about 10 bucks for water and a sandwich. 50 bucks to ride all day!!!!!

My body is aching still, though.
No problem. Also, another helpful tip about MX track riding incase you havn't been told already, is grip the bike with your knees. It makes a HUGE difference in your over all bike control around the track and even in the air. Plus it takes ALOT of strain off of your forearms and hands. Basically loosens up the "death grip" which ultimately helps with getting arm pump and being able to pound out another lap or two before you feel like you have to pull off.

Congrats on the bike, MX is addicting!
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I am not sure riding a 4 speed motocross bike in a hare scramble will be good for the engine but, I'll try it once for sure. I can do May anyways so, June sounds pretty good.

Alberto, I will ride the camp before I retire for sure How was it? Did your kid like it?
Taking my kid the 20th, i went by myself this time with James and Tim. It was awesome, i think i only crashed 8 times but well worth it.
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two dvds that i recently had the opportunity to watch:

Dirtwise with Shane Watts

Off Road: The Ultimate How-To Starring Nathan Woods

both did a great job with teaching, explaining, and showing you the fundamentals.
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Irak, whenever you want to run the woods...let me know. you too danny. also, keep me in mind before loading up towards the mx track.
will do, but no play time in my near future. on mandatory OT at the office through the end of May and building fences every weekend through May as well. Life's a sometimes.
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Irak, whenever you want to run the woods...let me know. you too danny. also, keep me in mind before loading up towards the mx track.
I think I'll be riding on Memorial day, Cliff. I'll let you know, we could go to a track near the both of us.

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...is grip the bike with your knees. It makes a HUGE difference in your over all bike control around the track and even in the air.
That is good to know, I was taking a beat on my hands. I will try it next time I go there.

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Taking my kid the 20th, i went by myself this time with James and Tim. It was awesome, i think i only crashed 8 times but well worth it.
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I am not sure riding a 4 speed motocross bike in a hare scramble will be good for the engine but, I'll try it once for sure. I can do May anyways so, June sounds pretty good.

Alberto, I will ride the camp before I retire for sure How was it? Did your kid like it?
you'll be fine....I rarely leave 3rd gear as well...sometimes, but only in wide open straights. Most of the races are 90% 2nd and 3rd gear for me.
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