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Old 05-09-2011, 11:23 AM   #121
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I still sense a disparity in this thread between a new rider fresh off MSF wanting to get over the anxiety of the road turning in front of them - i.e. being able to relax and be confidence that the bike will do what it is told and will not throw them on the pavement; and a rider with months or perhaps even years of street experience who would benefit much more from a novice level track day.
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I still sense a disparity in this thread between a new rider fresh off MSF wanting to get over the anxiety of the road turning in front of them - i.e. being able to relax and be confidence that the bike will do what it is told and will not throw them on the pavement; and a rider with months or perhaps even years of street experience who would benefit much more from a novice level track day.

I've been thinking the same thing, and reserve the option to kick some people off the list to make room for the true noobs.

"working in my lines" "getting my body position right" won't be covered on the ride... "look right, push right, turn right" will be....



Again... baby steps, slow speeds, real basics.


Upon further review I am going to realign the list based on experience.

Nothing personal, but if you have track days, multiple years experience, and ride with the usual SMR crews, you'll get bumped down in favor of the true "noobs' who this is aimed at. Sorry for any hurt feelings.

This is NOT to say you might not need some help or pointers, but you should be farther along than the group this is aimed at.

Again, this is for those who have little to NO experience in the twisties but want to learn some basics to build on...

And truthfully, you would have been bored more than likely. Honest.
Not really sure why you would want to putt along at walking speeds with us?
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I still sense a disparity in this thread between a new rider fresh off MSF wanting to get over the anxiety of the road turning in front of them - i.e. being able to relax and be confidence that the bike will do what it is told and will not throw them on the pavement; and a rider with months or perhaps even years of street experience who would benefit much more from a novice level track day.
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I've been thinking the same thing, and reserve the option to kick some people off the list to make room for the true noobs.

"working in my lines" "getting my body position right" won't be covered on the ride... "look right, push right, turn right" will be....



Again... baby steps, slow speeds, real basics.


Upon further review I am going to realign the list based on experience.

Nothing personal, but if you have track days, multiple years experience, and ride with the usual SMR crews, you'll get bumped down in favor of the true "noobs' who this is aimed at. Sorry for any hurt feelings.

This is NOT to say you might not need some help or pointers, but you should be farther along than the group this is aimed at.

Again, this is for those who have little to NO experience in the twisties but want to learn some basics to build on...

And truthfully, you would have been bored more than likely. Honest.
Not really sure why you would want to putt along at walking speeds with us?
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it seems this ride would benefit a lot more to new or just certified riders, so please give my spot to someone who will benefit from it.....

if it is ok, i would like to tag along with you guys. or be a helper..
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it seems this ride would benefit a lot more to new or just certified riders, so please give my spot to someone who will benefit from it.....

if it is ok, i would like to tag along with you guys. or be a helper..
Thanks for understanding. Thats exactly what the idea is.
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If you are looking to make this ride, but do not have ALL the appropriate gear to be able to attend, Please send me a PM as i have a some spare gear here and there, we can check to see if sizes fit well, maybe meet up the day prior or maybe an hour or two before the ride, to get you all the gear to make sure your properly protected.

Just send me a PM of what you are missing and the size you wear.

This will be a free rental from me personally. Just so you can make the ride and get the experience. If my gear is not returned to me by the end of the ride. i won't be doing this again.
i am going to need to borrow a bike. do you have extra one sitting around in your garage?
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i am going to need to borrow a bike. do you have extra one sitting around in your garage?
If i finish putting my bike back together ( with finals this week) then you could use the SV650S if you needed. But why do you need to use a bike?

But i do not think i will get time to get it back together and running smoothly.
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Are u aiming this toward noobs that are getting into group riding? So ppl stop going down in group rides??
Most ppl that ride solo aren't typically aggressive riders, hate to say it but if ur not aggressive rider u don't really have to worry about lines & body positioning. It's tryin to stay in the pack/outridding what u can or used to some1 seems to go down.

And riding yrs vs actual saddle time differs person to person. This is my 1st yr really getting into riding. My 1st 3 yrs I've owned bikes & rode (at most) 30 days thruout those 3 yrs. This yr I've ridden alot more which has been 30 days on & off thruout the yr. After 3 small group rides with diff MH ppl in the last few weeks I can honestly say the guys that ride everyday or are used to group/sport riding ride much more proficiently than some of ur so called "veterans" (myself included) lol
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Are u aiming this toward noobs that are getting into group riding? So ppl stop going down in group rides??
Most ppl that ride solo aren't typically aggressive riders, hate to say it but if ur not aggressive rider u don't really have to worry about lines & body positioning. It's tryin to stay in the pack/outridding what u can or used to some1 seems to go down.

And riding yrs vs actual saddle time differs person to person. This is my 1st yr really getting into riding. My 1st 3 yrs I've owned bikes & rode (at most) 30 days thruout those 3 yrs. This yr I've ridden alot more which has been 30 days on & off thruout the yr. After 3 small group rides with diff MH ppl in the last few weeks I can honestly say the guys that ride everyday or are used to group/sport riding ride much more proficiently than some of ur so called "veterans" (myself included) lol
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While the group may be a distracting factor, if people are going down because they are in a group then they are not focusing on the task at hand. I agree that a group can push individuals to ride outside their ability, but that is an individual problem. Regardless, you have to first start with a skill set. The decisions you make from situation to situation will always affect the outcome either positively or negatively. That is up to the individual and their own self-evaluation and self-control. That can't be taught. Thus - choose carefully who you ride with.

This is an event to establish some basic skills for riders who have a pretty clean slate. We are trying to take the knowledge gained in the MSF course and offer some practical application to the new riders in a low-pressure setting. We will obviously offer some excellent guidelines to proper group riding, but we will mainly be offering invaluable experience that can be taken and built upon every time a rider mounts the bike whether in a group or solo. We’re trying to get people confident in their machines so when they get in a bind, they don’t hesitate – they control the motorcycle with confidence.
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TexasPsyclone pretty much covered it..

This is aimed at those who are new to cornering, or new to riding and ready to learn a little more about turning the bike.

Has nothing to do with intro to groups, or bettering your body position at the track.

Really really basic how to turn.
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*** Please don't post if you aren't interested in going on this ride, thanks!

9:30 am, bright and early....

We will start our group discussions at 9:30, so please be there on time...!!!!!

Crappy weather will cancel this....

Basic route is about 80-90 miles, lunch will be at the Waller County Line BBQ at 362 and 290. Ride ends there.

Meet at the Starbucks on Fry Rd and Park Ln (thanks to Newrider for the map )

19914 Park Row Katy, TX 77449 - Google Maps

Please arrive with a full tank.
Check your air pressure, chain and overall condition of the bike before you roll out
Wear your gear!
Make sure you and your bike are legal, please...

You can check out the last one we did here:

http://www.motohouston.com/forums/sh...ight=noob+ride

Basic guidelines for the ride:

Slow, learn to walk before you run
We will be at/or below the posted speed limits for the trip
MSF is a big plus for the basic knowledge
We'll work on basic cornering techniques and raise your personal comfort levels up a notch
Same number of experienced riders as noobs, so we are alternating and everyone has a chance to follow someone else.. this way the noobs aren't trying to look all the way up front at the leaders, and the helpers can offer hints and tips based on direct observations....

At no time will anyone be pressured to go any faster than he/she is comfortable doing... we crawl, walk then run... toddlers on the curves are welcome...

This is specifically aimed at YOU, if:

You are new to backroads
New to sportbikes in general
uncomfortable whenever the road bends

This is not a trackday; this is a few friends getting together to shoot the and pass on some general knowledge and riding basics.

We'll touch on topics such as:

bike setup
looking where you want to go
good body position for the street
how to turn the bike
throttle control
setting up the curve
street lines versus race lines
group riding basics
why track days and advanced rider courses are kewl
and whatever else we can come up with

Please sign up only if you can commit to a half day on Sunday.. and note whether you are a noob or helper..

Just like last time we have a limit of 10 total noobs and helpers, to keep it small and simple. First come, first served and extras will be alternates.

Any questions you don't want to post feel free to PM me....

Leader: texlurch

1. lisieki1 - helper
2. floyd600 - helper
3. viffer 06 - helper
4. FKNA - helper
5. TheVirus - helper
6. senator - helper
7. TexasPsyclone - sweeper
8. pachuco - helper
9. sandbarmark - helper
10. Davekg - helper
11. triumpant675 - helper
12. Hotcknstrips - helper
13. newrider - helper
14. lone_rider-helper
15.Intermission-helper

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1. TexasPsycloneninjette (Leah) - noobette
2. Tylerninja - noob
3. Vegas Kid- noob
4. F4Injected - noob
5. Hondamami - noobette
6. marlon - noob
7. NoobyMcSquid - noob
8. angels05ss - noob
9. Ilean - noobette
10. blkwater - noob
11. TK_La177 - noob

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13. jakeKG - trackdays
14. hung - SMRs
15. jefe - 8 years, mostly cruisers
16. kalanie - trackdays
17. baopee - 10 years, multiple trackdays
18. DizzyZ - 10+ years, trackdays
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Just so theres no mis-understandings..

the ride is limited to 10 noobs and helpers.

If you are not on the list on the first page, sorry!
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First off, I think this a great idea!

Why not have TWO groups? Seriously.

I'll be there. Assuming of course that Starbucks doesn't take coffee off their menu. On curves, I'm barely intermediate. Even w/ 1 solid year, 8k miles exp I still ride like an ol' Grandpa, and it's curves that scare me. For me it's not learning the skills, it's unlearning bad habits, like target fixation and watching the road 5 feet ahead instead of the full turn.

With all due respect, if a group ride is getting organized for those fresh from MSF/parking lot/neighborhood streets, perhaps a NON-curvy road would be best. But hey, if I like the sound of my own ideas I can just start my own ride, right? See ya Sunday.

PS - If you want to come but your name's not one the list... come have some coffee and keep me company
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Because this is set up as a manageable group and has a set limit for that reason.

20 people is borderline for a group ride of this type, that's why I put a cap on it.

Guess if a kazillion people show up I can cancel and reschedule as a private, PM only ride.
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Because this is set up as a manageable group and has a set limit for that reason.

20 people is borderline for a group ride of this type, that's why I put a cap on it.

Guess if a kazillion people show up I can cancel and reschedule as a private, PM only ride.
Well it looks like with the popularity of your ride, it's already time to start a thread for a JUNE Total Noob ride! This whole ride is an excellent idea texlurch I am really looking forward to it!
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Well it looks like with the popularity of your ride, it's already time to start a thread for a JUNE Total Noob ride! This whole ride is an excellent idea texlurch I am really looking forward to it!
Seems like it... but this is my only free weekend until the end of July...

It just baffles me the fascination of older, "experienced" riders wanting to huddle up on this true noob ride...

The whole idea being that the smaller group will be easier to manage, low pressure for the noobs, and focused on the simple basics.

Last time it worked well... this time dunno.. guess we have an entirely new forum dynamic compared to 2008.
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Looks like we lost a helper, so I adjusted..

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