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Old 05-02-2011, 04:53 PM   #141
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Most people in MH morals:

If you crash and ANY of the following applies to you - no gear, no helmet, no license, rode a cruiser/harley = you're an idiot, you deserved to die.

But going on routes/rides, at triple digit speeds, endangering innocent drivers and families on the road, running from the cops and you made it ok to PP1/rendezvous point, you're the best thing since sliced bread. Its ok, cause even when you die splatered by a Semi, or hitting the pavement or outriding yourself you were awesome with all your power ranger gear on. (Oh, and this will always be 99.9 percent a cager's fault).

Hipocrisy???? You bet.
I can see where you are standing up for your non supersport buddies, but please post examples if you are going to make outlandish claims that most people CONDONE and SUPPORT that last paragraph...

I'll wait.
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Old 05-02-2011, 04:56 PM   #142
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Leave this thread as a RIP thread and not a what I did what you did thread. Have some respect........ I say start your own thread about gear, and there are many to choose from. Then flame n in thre. Just my .2
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Old 05-02-2011, 05:06 PM   #144
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I can see where you are standing up for your non supersport buddies, but please post examples if you are going to make outlandish claims that most people CONDONE and SUPPORT that last paragraph...

I'll wait.
Ok Green Power Ranger, there's a link on your top right hand, its called a SEARCH button, look-up the RIP thread ratio of sportbikes to cruisers.

I WON'T WAIT.

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Old 05-02-2011, 05:32 PM   #145
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Ok Green Power Ranger, there's a link on your top right hand, its called a SEARCH button, look-up the RIP thread ratio of sportbikes to cruisers.

I WON'T WAIT.

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more sporties here than cruisers
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Old 05-02-2011, 05:46 PM   #146
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Most people in MH morals:

If you crash and ANY of the following applies to you - no gear, no helmet, no license, rode a cruiser/harley = you're an idiot, you deserved to die.

But going on routes/rides, at triple digit speeds, endangering innocent drivers and families on the road, running from the cops and you made it ok to PP1/rendezvous point, you're the best thing since sliced bread. Its ok, cause even when you die splatered by a Semi, or hitting the pavement or outriding yourself you were awesome with all your power ranger gear on. (Oh, and this will always be 99.9 percent a cager's fault).

Hipocrisy???? You bet.
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I can see where you are standing up for your non supersport buddies, but please post examples if you are going to make outlandish claims that most people CONDONE and SUPPORT that last paragraph...

I'll wait.
While I disagree that this is the MAJORITY type of MH member, there IS some merit to this. I have tried to post my opinion about rides I've been on where I saw some pretty horrid examples of motorcycle proficiency by sport bike riders. Bad skill. Bad judgment. Bad attitudes - all at the same time and at triple digits only to have the majority of people come back at me and say "what are you talking about? I didn't see anything so bad. Looked pretty organized to me.... bla bla bla." Then in the same thread, joke about the EXACT type of riding Zizou describes above. It is definitely hypocrisy.

Ok - fine... whatever. But then some of these same people want to get on a RIP thread and bash on a guy because he thought he could make it from point "a" to point "b" without a lid. In my opinion, and by my experience - proper gear is SECONDARY (though a very close second) to proper skills and operation of a high performance motorcycle, because even with the best gear - those of us who have been around long enough have suffered the loss of some pretty experienced riders. Some of you are smart enough to put on some gear but then egos or adrenaline or the cute blond in the next lane cause the brain function to shut off. And the vast majority of the people guilty of this are riders with less than 5 years seat time. Peer pressure at 120mph is what it looks like to me. Preach gear all you want. I support it. But it is not the most important part of the equation.
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Me starting out on Sportbikes and then switching to more of a cruiser side, all the while being on MH, I've noticed that of course this is a Mostly Sportbike Community but also the maturity level of the two sides, Sportbike and Cruisers. Now this is not true to all so please forgive me in advance for my opinions. Now first of all, making fun or disrespecting someone who dies riding a motorcycle one way or the other is morally wrong and somewhat psycholigally wrong. Second, to place different riders in "Groups" and then bash or ridicule them for it is really nothing short of preschooler mentality. Now I have been very involved with sportbikes and cruisers so I believe my opinion is valid when I say that sportbike riders are the worst type of Motorcyclists. Now, dont get me wrong there are guys out there and on here that have excellent skills and master the art of riding but overall percentage sportbike riders and immature and inconsiderate, including me at times when I was younger. Like alot of people have said if you have posted on this thread or on any thread for that matter, bashing on someone who passed on or ridiculing them for their choices in life are bascally the scum of the earth and should sit back and really think about how precious life is. Now if I go out on a MC, I believe that is alot better then going out a murderer or rapists or something along those lines. So if you bash on someone who lived a good life but died on a MC choosing a different way then you would, you need mental help and a real fast wake up call.
Its just embarrasing to see the moslty "Younger" MC crowd getting more immature by the day and deciding to laugh at someone elses death
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Old 05-02-2011, 06:28 PM   #148
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HAIL: Crash and die please, so i can bash you, for wearing all your gear, and still dying.
That may happen some day. My only hope is that someone learn what I did wrong and maybe how to avoid my fate.
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Old 05-02-2011, 06:44 PM   #149
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I'm probably one of the few on here that started out on cruisers and moved to sportbikes later. My experience listed is on sportbikes.
I was taught that a rider is a rider no matter what they are on.

I'm not here to debate whether someone should bash on a fallen rider if they are wearing gear or not. People have different perspectives.

However, even theoretically supposing someone should DIE as a fellow rider, on a RIP thread, is unacceptable. So is making claims as this website houses nothing but irrational hooligans that condone, support, and glorify the people endangering other people or contributing to a stigma. Show me evidence to support the claims that "MOST of MH" is encircled by this theory.

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Ok Green Power Ranger, there's a link on your top right hand, its called a SEARCH button, look-up the RIP thread ratio of sportbikes to cruisers.

I WON'T WAIT.

NOT HERE TO EDUCATE YOU.
I don't need education, I've spent quite a bit on my education already.

What you mean to say is, "Instead of replying with something intelligent to say or show actual instances, I'm going to call names and type in big letters."
Thanks for showing everyone who actually needs an education here.
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Old 05-02-2011, 06:49 PM   #150
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Motion to end thread..

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Ok - fine... whatever. But then some of these same people want to get on a RIP thread and bash on a guy because he thought he could make it from point "a" to point "b" without a lid. In my opinion, and by my experience - proper gear is SECONDARY (though a very close second) to proper skills and operation of a high performance motorcycle, because even with the best gear - those of us who have been around long enough have suffered the loss of some pretty experienced riders. Some of you are smart enough to put on some gear but then egos or adrenaline or the cute blond in the next lane cause the brain function to shut off. And the vast majority of the people guilty of this are riders with less than 5 years seat time. Peer pressure at 120mph is what it looks like to me. Preach gear all you want. I support it. But it is not the most important part of the equation.
Fair enough. I would like to continue to preach both skill and gear. I officially retract my statement that people SHOULD be bashed. From now on from me it will be "R.I.P. Guys! Wear your gear guys and practice your skills. This just proves we are not invincible." That is more in line with the hail you will meet in person on rides. With that I say...

R.I.P. to the rider and condolences to friends and family. Sorry if I offended you. I truly do just want others to learn from this.

Guys! Wear your gear and practice your skills. This just proves we are not invincible!
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Me starting out on Sportbikes and then switching to more of a cruiser side, all the while being on MH, I've noticed that of course this is a Mostly Sportbike Community but also the maturity level of the two sides, Sportbike and Cruisers. Now this is not true to all so please forgive me in advance for my opinions. Now first of all, making fun or disrespecting someone who dies riding a motorcycle one way or the other is morally wrong and somewhat psycholigally wrong. Second, to place different riders in "Groups" and then bash or ridicule them for it is really nothing short of preschooler mentality. Now I have been very involved with sportbikes and cruisers so I believe my opinion is valid when I say that sportbike riders are the worst type of Motorcyclists. Now, dont get me wrong there are guys out there and on here that have excellent skills and master the art of riding but overall percentage sportbike riders and immature and inconsiderate, including me at times when I was younger. Like alot of people have said if you have posted on this thread or on any thread for that matter, bashing on someone who passed on or ridiculing them for their choices in life are bascally the scum of the earth and should sit back and really think about how precious life is. Now if I go out on a MC, I believe that is alot better then going out a murderer or rapists or something along those lines. So if you bash on someone who lived a good life but died on a MC choosing a different way then you would, you need mental help and a real fast wake up call.
Its just embarrasing to see the moslty "Younger" MC crowd getting more immature by the day and deciding to laugh at someone elses death
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almost my story. I've bought, sold, ridden, traded, and wrecked several sportbikes. i can hop on most of yalls SS and out-trick you any day. i chose to slow down and put my feet up on a comfy-but-still-whoop-your--in-a-drag-race cruiser. for that i deserve death according to a large majority of these cancerous cliquey true-squids.

i wonder how many sportbike wrecks are caused by the riding it while listening to an ipod. that's 10x worse than riding with no gear. instead of doing what you can to prevent an accident, you think your okay by making the crash more survivable. HELLO, PREVENTING the wreck trumps SURVIVING ONE you could have PREVENTED. The problem is this overpopulated dog-pack is WAAAY overboard on telling people what to do (see: Wall of Shame: encouraging people be un-safe, taking photos/videos while driving cars & trucks). IMO - The person posting photos always looks douchier than the person they cell-phone-photo-stalked.

what's playing on the ipod that's so much better than living? "T swizzle"?

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almost my story. I've bought, sold, ridden, traded, and wrecked several sportbikes. i can hop on most of yalls SS and out-trick you any day. i chose to slow down and put my feet up on a comfy-but-still-whoop-your--in-a-drag-race cruiser. for that i deserve death according to a large majority of these cancerous cliquey true-squids.

i wonder how many sportbike wrecks are caused by the riding it while listening to an ipod. that's 10x worse than riding with no gear. instead of doing what you can to prevent an accident, you think your okay by making the crash more survivable. HELLO, PREVENTING the wreck trumps SURVIVING ONE you could have PREVENTED. The problem is this overpopulated dog-pack is WAAAY overboard on telling people what to do (see: Wall of Shame: encouraging people be un-safe, taking photos/videos while driving cars & trucks). IMO - The person posting photos always looks douchier than the person they cell-phone-photo-stalked.

what's playing on the ipod that's so much better than living? "T swizzle"?

what a mess. u really shouldn't be drinking at 10 am. HEEELLLLOOOOO !!!!????!!!
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RIP -
I've had losses under both circumstances, cruisers, sportbikes, geared up and not. I have WAY strong opinions on both, only this is not the place for it.
But this tread . . . . wow- some of you I respected.
Come on guys, imagine that freaky Baptist church showing up at your loved ones funeral waving their protest signs.
End Tread - it's out of hand.
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