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Old 04-26-2011, 04:24 PM   #21
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There's only two offenses in Texas where a police officer can't arrest you: speeding and open container.

Every other offense (yes this includes expired registration, etc) is an arrestable offense. A citation can be issued in lieu of being arrested for Class C offenses. It is up to the officer's discretion whether he wants to cite or arrest.
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It took one ticket for no M endorsement to change my mind and get mine, like 7 years ago.
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I need to get my texas Motorcycle license, what all does it entail for an out of stater to get it?
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Heads up everyone. You can go to jail for no motorcycle licence. Learned that one the hard way. Needless to say I'm taking safety coarse next week now. I have been pulled over before without licence and always got a warning. Was shocked to hear the " put your hands behind your back please sir." So embarrassing. Don't let it happen to you too.
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I need to get my texas Motorcycle license, what all does it entail for an out of stater to get it?
Should be just a simple license transfer. Obviously another state gave you an endorsement...
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There's only two offenses in Texas where a police officer can't arrest you: speeding and open container.

Every other offense (yes this includes expired registration, etc) is an arrestable offense. A citation can be issued in lieu of being arrested for Class C offenses. It is up to the officer's discretion whether he wants to cite or arrest.
Sorry in advance for the thread jack, but had this discussion a few weeks ago with on officer in class.

What if you refused to sign the ticket? He said if the ticket was for speeding and you refused to sign, then the offense arrested for would actually be "speeding".

Being a little technical, I know, but I'm curious. I lost $10 on the bet.
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Just never got one. I've been pulled over like 3 or 4 times. Always got a warning.
Then frankly, you're pretty damned stupid.

You get 3-4 freebies and you STILL don't get the endorsement?
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Do they keep track how many warnings you got? I'm surprised you got arrested for no M endorsement. Usually you get a fine...
Not these days. Over the last 12 months they started cracking down pretty hard on the lack of a M endorsement. If they don't take you to jail, sometimes they opt to tow your bike at the very least.
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Then frankly, you're pretty damned stupid.

You get 3-4 freebies and you STILL don't get the endorsement?
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.. so you went to jail for something that you can be arrested for?

Getting that many freebies and not bothering to take care of it.. yeah..
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1 ticket was all it took for me to get mine, Freakin fine was more than the class.
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There's only two offenses in Texas where a police officer can't arrest you: speeding and open container.

Every other offense (yes this includes expired registration, etc) is an arrestable offense. A citation can be issued in lieu of being arrested for Class C offenses. It is up to the officer's discretion whether he wants to cite or arrest.

This right here shows that cops have way to much power. Sorry but it is true.
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There's only two offenses in Texas where a police officer can't arrest you: speeding and open container.

Every other offense (yes this includes expired registration, etc) is an arrestable offense. A citation can be issued in lieu of being arrested for Class C offenses. It is up to the officer's discretion whether he wants to cite or arrest.
Good info. I never knew this, I was always told for x2 over posted, you could be arrested. So, theoretically, if I am doing 141 mph in a 70 zone, I can't be arrested?

I actually had a friend arrested and hauled off in cuffs while at A&M for speeding. He was running a 5.0 notchback with nitrous on a Sonic run to Caldwell on 166. Guy is a lawyer now, sorta funny.
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Sorry in advance for the thread jack, but had this discussion a few weeks ago with on officer in class.

What if you refused to sign the ticket? He said if the ticket was for speeding and you refused to sign, then the offense arrested for would actually be "speeding".

Being a little technical, I know, but I'm curious. I lost $10 on the bet.
The Statute clears up this issue (relevant parts bolded):



TEXAS TRANSPORTATION CODE Sec. 543.004. NOTICE TO APPEAR REQUIRED: CERTAIN OFFENSES.

(a) An officer shall issue a written notice to appear if:

(1) the offense charged is speeding or a violation of the open container law, Section 49.03, Penal Code; and

(2) the person makes a written promise to appear in court as provided by Section 543.005.

(b) If the person is a resident of or is operating a vehicle licensed in a state or country other than this state, Subsection (a) applies only as provided by Chapter 703.

(c) The offenses specified by Subsection (a) are the only offenses for which issuance of a written notice to appear is mandatory.




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Good info. I never knew this, I was always told for x2 over posted, you could be arrested. So, theoretically, if I am doing 141 mph in a 70 zone, I can't be arrested?

I actually had a friend arrested and hauled off in cuffs while at A&M for speeding. He was running a 5.0 notchback with nitrous on a Sonic run to Caldwell on 166. Guy is a lawyer now, sorta funny.
If the cop decided to cite you for speeding, then no he couldn't arrest you. But at some point (and it is discretionary and fact specific), he could get you for reckless driving instead. Reckless is a class B misdemeanor and definitely an arrestable offense.
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Good info. I never knew this, I was always told for x2 over posted, you could be arrested. So, theoretically, if I am doing 141 mph in a 70 zone, I can't be arrested?

I actually had a friend arrested and hauled off in cuffs while at A&M for speeding. He was running a 5.0 notchback with nitrous on a Sonic run to Caldwell on 166. Guy is a lawyer now, sorta funny.
Ahhh but that is the funny part... an officer has the discretion to turn it into wreckless which can be applied even if you are going 10mph less than the posted speed limit as long as he deems that you are acting like a jacka** and putting someone in danger.

So yes technically they can't arrest you for speeding because you are going 141 in a 70, they'll just justify it some other way with one of the other terms that allows them to bypass the loophole that the speeding limitation provides you.

somewhere alnog the lines of ... for every loophole there is an oposite and equal way out

Still in the fence about who that helps though
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