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Old 04-25-2011, 01:52 PM   #1
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Old 04-25-2011, 02:30 PM   #2
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I've been wanting to install one on my bike for a while now.

But when I'm on 4 wheels, I use my Valentine 1. It's one of the best out there (or was, whenever I researched it). It shows direction, number of bogeys, and radar type.



As for the cops, they can use radar anytime. Instant on can be dangerous because, if used correctly, you don't have any advance warning. Cops can shoot radar while driving in front and in back of them.

Laser, however, is a different story. It will be difficult to have any advance warning for that. Although, my V1 has saved me from laser in traffic. One good thing about laser though, it requires the LEO to be sitting still. They literally have to aim the laser at your headlight, license plate, etc...
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All I can say is that, YES, they can track you, moving one direction, while they are moving in another. Not sure about limitations, but I do know the sheriffs on HWY 6, got me from multiple angles/ speeds.

That was over 12 years ago.


(EDIT yeraboof posted right before I did, and clarifies it better. They can track frontally, and rearward... but that doesnt mean you have to be going the same direction as them, or oncoming.. going across, into the path will give a reading too. (if not, they make it look like they can, when talking to ya.)

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Wouldnt ride a bike without one, use to use my passport 8500 on my bike.
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3 warnings on yesterday's ride = 3 LEOS and a good warning. Passport 8500 FTW.
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I now have the 9500xi, nice radar detector and about to trade my 8500 for another 9500 so both my vehicles have the same radar detector
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All I can say is that, YES, they can track you, moving one direction, while they are moving in another. Not sure about limitations, but I do know the sheriffs on HWY 6, got me from multiple angles/ speeds.

That was over 12 years ago.


(EDIT yeraboof posted right before I did, and clarifies it better. They can track frontally, and rearward... but that doesnt mean you have to be going the same direction as them, or oncoming.. going across, into the path will give a reading too. (if not, they make it look like they can, when talking to ya.)

Yes, exactly. The only angle they can't get you is if they are aiming perpendicular to you. That has to do with a cosine error or something. I don't remember the details on that.

If you ever want to fight a ticket, it's worthwhile knowing a little bit about how radar works. Radar shoots from the source outward like a flashlight beam. It kinda spreads out and bounces off of all sorts of things. The radar unit picks up whatever is reflected back first. Which is usually whatever is moving that is closest, but can easily be something larger a little further away. (i.e. A motorcycle next to a semi, the reading will most likely be from the semi). There is no way to really "aim" radar. Also, LEO's are "supposed" to lock on to your speed for 3-5 seconds, but I'm not sure if that is actually practiced or not.

Laser is pretty much opposite. It shoots a beam similar to, uh... a laser! Meaning the beam waves don't spread much, which means less "renegade" beams for a laser detector to pick up. Also I think with laser (I'm not really sure on this one), the LEO can pick up your speed instantly and doesn't require that time interval that radar requires. So for laser, I pretty much just try to keep an eye out for someone on the side of the road (or possibly on the overpass above) that looks like they are aiming a gun at traffic.
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I always have my Escort 9500ix on when I am in the car and it has saved my so many times it has certainly paid for itself many times over.

It used to be that it was very rare to get a laser alert, but the cops now, especially on the westpark tollway, are now using laser big time. To be honest if you get a laser alert that was meant for you then you're toast. The only hope is picking up a stray light beam from the cop trying to catch a guy in front of you.

I saw a report (search uTube) and modern radar systems in cop cars can not only track front and rear, but can actually track multiple vehicles front and back. That's just not fair.
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3 warnings on yesterday's ride = 3 LEOS and a good warning. Passport 9500ix FTW.
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Ive got the 9500ix on my bike right now. Works very well. Saved me from a ticket on 99. I just need to hurry up and get the screamer so I actually hear it when it first goes off, lol. I can see the light under my windscreen, but I need to stop taking my eyes off the road.
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Ive got the 9500ix on my bike right now. Works very well. Saved me from a ticket on 99. I just need to hurry up and get the screamer so I actually hear it when it first goes off, lol. I can see the light under my windscreen, but I need to stop taking my eyes off the road.
Besides the cost of the radar and the screamer. It is just the cost of the mount and the hardwire correct?
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Thats correct. Have you seen the other Radar thread? (http://motohouston.com/forums/showthread.php?t=180075) Just realized thats your thread, so Im sure you have. As far as the mounting, what I got was relatively cheap and easy to install also. If you dont ever plan on needing another cigarette plug, for a GPS, cellphone, or something like that, you could always just get the direct wire from escort for the 9500ix and just wire that to the battery. Then you would just need to unplug the radar to turn it off.
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Besides the cost of the radar and the screamer. It is just the cost of the mount and the hardwire correct?
I just read in your other thread that you have an x50 already. You could use that one if you dont want to buy another radar. They sell a screamer that works with that radar as well.
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